Posts: 111 Location: Everett. Wa
Sun 20 May, 2012 4:19 pm
R Kolick can you give me examples of new upstart companies that are as good or close to Albion for less cost? I would love to support an upstart company but the quality needs to be there and they must be from a free nation.
Posts: 235 Location: Maryland USA
Sun 20 May, 2012 5:03 pm
After reading all the posts on this tread I believe I can honestly say my comments won't add much, but I do think I represent a slice of the target market in the Gen2 price range. While I could well afford a high end custom product, I have not chosen to buy a sword much above the $300 price range. I just don't know enough about them, nor do I know enough about my own interest in them to justify a greater expenditure when I can identify a number of other interests competing for that money. Buying the lower end swords however feeds both my knowledge and interest, and likely will lead me to more expensive ventures into this realm. I have only two swords, the first a DSA Claymore (1 1/2 yrs. ago) and the second a Gen2 River Witham. While both carried the same purchase price, the Gen2 is obviously the better of the two with regard to workmanship, feel, and fit and finish. While I wait to see what I'll do next, I enjoy learning more, mainly on this website. Without products in this price range I might never have made the plunge, which would have been a real shame as much fun as it has been.
Posts: 443 Location: Reston, VA
Sun 20 May, 2012 9:19 pm
I have had a vast number of swords over the last several years. My current collection now is for the most part Albion, A&A,, and customs. I have kept a small number of lower end swords that I am attached to. These are very good offerings that still make me not want to sell them. Are they Albion or A&A equals - no, but they are still good swords. One sword in particular that stands out is the newer model Kris Cutlery Teutonic Sword. The stats on KOA still list the previous version and not the new one. This is the best lower end sword I have ever purchased. I did a leather wrap over the cord and it handles and looks as nice as some of the swords I own that is twice the price or more. May not be 100% historical but it is well done.
Gen2/LA needs to up their game as the market is moving past them. I own a few of their models and they are sturdy beaters and take the place of my higher end swords to practice with. Acceptable for the sub 300 market.
Posts: 1,903 Location: Toronto
Mon 21 May, 2012 2:04 pm
I think more objective reviews of lower-end swords from knowledgeable people could only be a good thing. First because, lets face it, a lot more people buy lower end swords than higher end ones, and because the variabilty of quality at the lower end is much higher than at the higher end. I've never read a review of an Albion that concluded 'poor finish, not very historical...'! Whereas two $200 swords might be miles apart in terms of quality.
My sword-buying experience is similar to William's. At the moment I buy custom swords, but there was a time when I needed to buy lower end swords and it was sometimes very frustrating when people advised me to save up for better swords. Although the advice was well meaning, it does not fit every circumstances. It would have fit when I was a young single guy (I remember saving for two years to buy a Gibson electric guittar), but life has many phases. There was a time in my life, as university student supporting a family on a scholarship, when buying a music CD was a huge splurge. A 200 dollar sword would have been out of the question; that money was need for food and rent. There was another period that lasted years, not so long ago, when I had to pay the equivalent of a couple of Albions a month on legal fees. I would buy a low-end sword on impulse every few months to cheer myself up. God bless lower end swords!
Taking Patrick's analogy further, we buy 'Car and Driver' for the vicarious thrill of the farrari review, but in reality their review of the latest minivans is likely more useful to most of us. Moreover, the minivan is far superior in terms of grocery shopping and picking up kids from school! Car and Driver reviews both types of vehical, and wisely compares sports cars to sports cars and minivans to minivans. I think the sword world can do the same; and that it is possible to educate people on what is historically correct in a way that does not disrespect their personal situation and limitations.
I've been wanting to get that out of my system for some time!
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