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Nick Winley




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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun, 2007 4:41 am    Post subject: Ford Leaf Dagger         Reply with quote

One of my as yet unfinished projects. This one inspired by the Edward III dagger which was discussed recently. The blade is one half of a leaf spring from a Model T Ford. The grip is again Ironbark. There will eventually be a steel plate at the pommel end, however I'm not sure how to finish it off. I don't think the die I have will stand up to threading this steel and I'm wary of peening the end for fear of cracking the grip. I may try something unusual which might horrify purists... we'll see.

Anyway on with the photos. Any comments/suggestions are welcome please.

Nick.



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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun, 2007 5:48 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nice work! A mapp gas torch (availible at hardware stores as a plumber's torch) is hot enough to anneal the end of your tang and allow you to thread it. Heat the last couple of inches of tang until it is a nice cherry red (or until a magnet no longer sticks) and then stick it in a pile of wood ashes or other non-flammable insulating material to cool slowly. This may take a few hours, with big pieces it takes overnight at least. You may want to pre-heat the insulating material for something this small. This same method is what I would recommend if you plan to peen it also.
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Nick Winley




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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun, 2007 12:29 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Justin for the advice.

There's the excuse I needed to fork out on a MAP Gas torch.

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun, 2007 7:47 am    Post subject: Re: Ford Leaf Dagger         Reply with quote

Nick Winley wrote:
One of my as yet unfinished projects. This one inspired by the Edward III dagger which was discussed recently. The blade is one half of a leaf spring from a Model T Ford. The grip is again Ironbark. There will eventually be a steel plate at the pommel end, however I'm not sure how to finish it off. I don't think the die I have will stand up to threading this steel and I'm wary of peening the end for fear of cracking the grip. I may try something unusual which might horrify purists... we'll see.

Anyway on with the photos. Any comments/suggestions are welcome please.

Nick.


Nick,
Not bad! I should point out, though, that this dagger is not the one attributed to Edward III. It's the other one. Happy

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Nick Winley




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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank's Chad, I stand corrected.

That's what you get for skimming through the posts just looking at the pictures.

Nick.

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun, 2007 2:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nick Winley wrote:
Thank's Chad, I stand corrected.

That's what you get for skimming through the posts just looking at the pictures.

Nick.


I thought it was that one, too, at first, but later found some stuff in the text that pointed to the other one pretty definitively.

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun, 2007 5:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nice work. I made a dagger from a leaf spring once myself. I was asked this weekend if I would every make another one, and my reponse was, "not without a power hammer." These kinds of projects take a lot of patience, and that material fights back pretty good. I peened the end on my dagger without any trouble, but my pommel was also wedged in place (purely by accident, I can't take any credit for that part).

Threading may still be the way to go. I look forwar to seeing it completed.

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Tim Harris
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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun, 2007 10:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Greyson Brown wrote:
Nice work. I made a dagger from a leaf spring once myself. I was asked this weekend if I would every make another one, and my reponse was, "not without a power hammer." These kinds of projects take a lot of patience, and that material fights back pretty good.


I made my first forged swords from used car spring, and I agree, it's hard going at any less than bright red/orange heat. That's not the ideal temp for the material, which gives a better result at cherry red or below.

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Nick Winley




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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jun, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ok here it is finished. As you can see, the blade is less than perfect. I had a little trouble polishing it but there comes a time when you just have to put it down and call it finished before you start hating it.

Anyway...

Nick.



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