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Sun 12 Jun, 2011 12:26 am

Adam D. Kent-Isaac wrote:

James Gillespie - thank you for that! You're an ace.

That portrait looks like it might be of someone from the House of Orange. At first I thought it might have been Justin of Nassau, the son of William the Silent, late in life, but the eyes don't quite match, although the overall shape of the face does. Where did you find that portrait, Nathan?

It's a portait of Herzog August der Jangere von Braunschweig-Wolfenbuttel.

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustus_the_You...3%BCneburg

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Simon G.

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Sun 12 Jun, 2011 1:32 pm

Anna beat me to it, but I'll add that there is a sometimes useful tool for those who'd like to locate the online origin of a pic they have on their HD : the TinEye reverse image search engine. In the case of Nathan's pic, it certainly works : http://www.tineye.com/search/46ea70dc86e075e7...98e89250c/
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Adam D. Kent-Isaac

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Sun 12 Jun, 2011 2:36 pm

In case anyone still cares, the helmet from this armour also shows up in a portrait of Charles William Ferdinand, a later Duke of Brunswick-Wolfenbuttel. It is sitting on the red table at the far left. I guess the armour remained in the family of the Dukes of Brunswick as an heirloom and was sufficiently honored to be represented in the portrait as a symbol of the family.

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Anna G.

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Mon 13 Jun, 2011 12:07 am

Adam D. Kent-Isaac wrote:

Thank you for that image! ))

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I guess the armour remained in the family of the Dukes of Brunswick as an heirloom and was sufficiently honored to be represented in the portrait as a symbol of the family.

About 1928 it was in Veltheim family in Castle Harbke as historical relic.

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Robert Faleer

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Mon 13 Jun, 2011 6:04 am

Daniel Sullivan wrote:

Adam,

It is by Nicolas Hilliard and is very similar to the one posted elsewhere on this site, but displays much more armor. It is one of 250 miniatures in the group donated by a Mr. and Mrs. Star in 1958 and 1965.

Guess the "Pendragon" armor is lost since gone, but in Stones Glossary (originally published in the 1930s) there is a greave or a set of greaves that have a similar decoration.

Dan

For those still interested in this discussion, Nicholas Hilliard did paint a miniature half-portrait of George Clifford wearing the Greenwich armour. It was part of the collection of Hilliard portraits that Mr. and Mrs. Starr donated to the Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art. I know that the Pendragon Hilliard portrait of the Earl was discussed (along with an image), but I didn't see a mention of this particular portrait. Here is the Nelson-Atkins webpage showing an enlarged image of the portrait: http://www.nelson-atkins.org/art/CollectionDa...e=dec_arts.

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