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Craig Johnson
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan, 2015 11:16 am    Post subject: Pics for Doug         Reply with quote

Our emails are not liking each other so posting these for Doug


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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan, 2015 11:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That looks awesome Craig! I can see the proportions coming together better in these shots.

I think maybe the weak end of the original blade is a bit more thrust-oriented, but we already discussed this on the phone.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan, 2015 12:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Have you made a decision yet about the grip? When I was trying to decide on one, I looked at photos and drawings of tomb effigies and brasses.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan, 2015 12:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It's hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like the quillon terminal swellings may be a bit more rounded or clubbed than the repo. Other than that, my only question is if the fuller terminates as abruptly as on the recreation.

Two minor, really unimportant points in an otherwise outstanding looking sword (they stood out to me because the swords look so similar). The proportions and lines and 'feel' of the piece in the photos is eerily similar to the original--absolutely fantastic work.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan, 2015 1:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Roger Hooper wrote:
Have you made a decision yet about the grip? When I was trying to decide on one, I looked at photos and drawings of tomb effigies and brasses.

http://effigiesandbrasses.com/search/


To be honest Roger, I haven't had much time to do any more research on this topic. I'm swamped at work right now. I'm supposed to be on sabbatical, but once again I've ended up doing a big fund-raising project for my university. Then you get home and its all kids and chores until you sit down and fall asleep in your chair.

But who am I to whine? I'm so lucky to have a good job, a healthy family, and swords like this! Living the dream baby.

Anyway, so far I just told Craig to do something similar to what he did in the sword to the left, but in a different color. Still open to other ideas if it doesn't add cost (all that green stuff went into new heating system last month) and catches my eye.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan, 2015 1:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Kai Lawson wrote:
It's hard to tell from the photo, but it looks like the quillon terminal swellings may be a bit more rounded or clubbed than the repo. Other than that, my only question is if the fuller terminates as abruptly as on the recreation.


Now that you mention it, in one of the original photos it looks like the terminals are asymmetric - one looks more angular and one looks more rounded, at least on one side.

Anyway, the guys at A&A have been through the ringer on this one, trying to figure out the proper proportions. Since we have probably already deviated from the original in overall size (we think) I don't want to give them any more trouble.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan, 2015 4:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Oh no--I didn't mean to be critical. They have done an amazing job, and the sword looks fantastic! It's so close that I automatically started to look for something that was off in some way, to see if I could find something, I suppose. Not helpful, really...
Anyway, the original must not have been very large (31'' blade is around average, maybe a bit short), as the A&A repo looks to be of normal to slightly enlarged proportions for some of the XVI's I've seen. I am very excited to see this one finished.

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan, 2015 5:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Kai Lawson wrote:
Oh no--I didn't mean to be critical. They have done an amazing job, and the sword looks fantastic! It's so close that I automatically started to look for something that was off in some way, to see if I could find something, I suppose. Not helpful, really....


No worries, Kai. I took it to be a perceptive observation, not a criticism.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Jan, 2015 8:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gorgeous looking sword; great proportions. Looking forward to the final version.
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Jan, 2015 6:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Getting close.


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PostPosted: Tue 03 Feb, 2015 5:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's a first peak at the finished sword:


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PostPosted: Wed 04 Feb, 2015 11:10 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Notice that the fuller really is flat, like the original? I wonder why it was made this way.

I've never handled a sword like this. Presumably a fuller like this takes away more mass than the usual rounded cross-section. I'm looking forward to seeing how this affects the weight, balance, and stiffness of the sword.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Feb, 2015 1:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I see these flat fullers sometimes on originals and I became quite intrigued by them. I look forward to hearing your impressions. Also, if such fuller is shallower than a comparable round one. They certainly look interesting. The whole sword is very nice. Looks very universal, like you could use it one handed from horseback or with a shield, support the grip with another hand on foot with no shield available, useful about equally for cut and thrust... Cool.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Feb, 2015 1:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nice J.D! And great to one of the musee Sandelin swords made. Looking forward to more pictures...

I see that A&A adopted the cord over leather wrap style Happy
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Feb, 2015 4:44 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Luka Borscak wrote:
I see these flat fullers sometimes on originals and I became quite intrigued by them. I look forward to hearing your impressions. Also, if such fuller is shallower than a comparable round one. They certainly look interesting.


You've got a point there, it could be more shallow than the deepest point of a rounded fuller, although the A&A version looks pretty deep from the picture. Its pretty much an I-beam with sharp edges. I wonder if this fuller shape would create more drag in a cut compared to a smooth fuller.

Luka Borscak wrote:
The whole sword is very nice. Looks very universal, like you could use it one handed from horseback or with a shield, support the grip with another hand on foot with no shield available, useful about equally for cut and thrust... Cool.


My thoughts exactly! Looks like an all-around cut and thrust war sword.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Feb, 2015 4:50 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Julien M wrote:
Nice J.D! And great to one of the musee Sandelin swords made. Looking forward to more pictures...


Thanks! This is my second reproduction from that museum. Must be nice to see in person - I wonder why it is not more famous.

I guess there will be more pictures - Craig usually takes some nice posed shots and I will take some when it arrives.

Julien M wrote:
I see that A&A adopted the cord over leather wrap style Happy


Yes, I ended up asking for a red version similar to the grip they made me for another sword (the O-pommel in my avatar). I found that gives a very evenly distributed, strongly tactile positive grip - ideal for a relatively large, heavy single-hand sword. Craig says it really improved the feel of this current sword.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Feb, 2015 6:39 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Speaking of Craig's pictures, these just arrived in my mailbox:


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PostPosted: Wed 04 Feb, 2015 7:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That's a really good looking sword.
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PostPosted: Wed 04 Feb, 2015 7:46 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

My thoughts exactly, Nathan.

Julien M wrote:
I see that A&A adopted the cord over leather wrap style Happy


And a neat seam edge. Go team!

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PostPosted: Thu 05 Feb, 2015 6:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Nathan and Mark, on behalf of the A&A guys. I'll provide my full impressions when I get my hands on it. -JDC
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