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Posts: 1,302 Location: Jackson, MS, USA

Tue 04 Aug, 2015 4:21 pm

There's the vest in the Museo de Armería de Alava, Vitoria-Gasteiz, Basque Autonomous Region, Spain. Unfortunately the provenance is questioned.

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Heath Barlin

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Tue 04 Aug, 2015 9:15 pm

Thanks for all the great info gentlemen.

I've sent an email regarding that scale. Hopefully I might be able to acquire some dimensions.

Thanks all.

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Henrik Zoltan Toth

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Posts: 200 Location: Hungary

Wed 16 Sep, 2015 1:01 am

Found this on the net:

http://manuscriptminiatures.com/media/cache/m...allery.jpg

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Dan Howard

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Posts: 3,636 Location: Maitland, NSW, Australia

Wed 16 Sep, 2015 6:45 am

Henrik Zoltan Toth wrote:

Found this on the net:

http://manuscriptminiatures.com/media/cache/m...allery.jpg

You can't really use these kinds of illustrations to tell whether something is made of metal or leather or cloth. There are only five colours in the palette. The woman's skirt is the same colour as the knight's mail armour. Does that mean that it is made of iron?

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Matthew Amt

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Posts: 1,456 Location: Laurel, MD, USA

Wed 16 Sep, 2015 6:56 am

Another caution is that this is presumably an illustration of the Biblical Massacre of the Innocents, so there might be unrealistic details to make the soldiers look "archaic" or "Roman".

Matthew

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Dan Howard

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Posts: 3,636 Location: Maitland, NSW, Australia

Wed 16 Sep, 2015 7:00 am

Often you see the heroes wearing mail and the "evil foreigner" wearing scale/lamellar. If scale armour is meant to indicate the foreigner then this can conversely be used to argue that the locals did not wear scale.

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Iagoba Ferreira

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Fri 25 Sep, 2015 1:06 pm

Mart Shearer wrote:

There's the vest in the Museo de Armería de Alava, Vitoria-Gasteiz, Basque Autonomous Region, Spain. Unfortunately the provenance is questioned.

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I'm even unsure from what continent it is :wtf:
It has some interesting features, sugesting it was not made just for display, but a proper examination needs time I don't have currently, and I've got first to end somehow the research on two really interesting medieval mail pieces :\

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