Some flattened Roman mail. I have to link you to the big picture so you can see. http://www.roma-victrix.com/armamentarium/img...ata09b.jpg Look closely, especially down the right side, you can see the riveted rings have been flattened. The punched rings look like they vary from a compressed oval to flat.
From http://www.roma-victrix.com/armamentarium/loricae_hamata.htm
Not sure how they can tell this is Roman.

Not doubled, it's just not woven into the fabric yet.

Between the low-resolution pictures, the lack of measurements, and the corrosion from being a river find, I see no reason to think it's Roman rather than something associated with the late 16th century battle of Sisak vs. the Turks. I'm sure the area has a lot of history in between which might account for it too.

A few of my own pictures of supposedly roman mail from archeological museum in Zagreb:

Two mail armours from Graz Zeughaus. The problem is that I don't really know which pictures belong to which armour. :) One was the shirt with dense collar you see complete in one picture and the other was shown in combination with hussar breastplate, so only sleeves could be seen well.















I think this is the other one because the rivet caps are round:

You take take good photos, Luka. The shirt with collar in the Graz is being displayed inside-out. At least we can see the inside of the wedge-riveted joint that way. :D

Is mail better when its small or large rings?

Small and relatively thick is the best. Especially against thrusts and arrows.

Visited the Royal Armoury in Leeds recently, some maille pictures:

[Overall, the collection on display isn't really worth visiting the Armoury for. But since entrance is free, it may be nice to visit if you happen to be in Leeds anyhow]


(maille on aventail of helmet shown)




J.B.

Ok, not really maille, but interesting enough.





J.B.

Larger than real example of Japanese weave.




J.B.

Most interesting maille on display (in my opinion)

It is somewhat hard to get decent pictures through the glass of the display cases, but I hope they are helpful to someone.














J.B.

Mail shirt 19325, grid Vxx6 from Wisby:
http://catview.historiska.se/catview/media/highres/374312

OK, It's not in great shape, but consider the iron was buried with a few hundred decaying corpses.

I wouldn't be surprised if the "Tibetan" mail is actually a European import.

Another fragment from Wisby:
http://catview.historiska.se/catview/media/highres/321781
http://mis.historiska.se/mis/sok/bild.asp?uid=321781

Few months ago I was visiting in Krakow again. There is great exhibition called Ottomania in the Museum Narodowe. After the exhibition I went to the basic exhibition and took few pictures of the mailshirts they have. One is the type known having islamic inscriptions around all the rings. This shirt is under one Hussar armour so you have to be on a sharp mood to notice. The next one is behind the glass and what it looks there is a small crosses decorated on each ring.
r. Peter

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