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Hisham Gaballa
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| Jakob Elbęk E. Pedersen wrote: | I haven' t been able to find pictures of the original dutch kettlehat with twisted top. But here is a picture of a very nice reproduction from www.whiterosearmoury.co.uk. I really like the gilded decorative balls on the top.
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Isn't that kettle-hat with the twisted top (the original, not the reproduction) in the Metropolitan Museum in New York?
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Jakob Elbęk E. Pedersen
Location: Brabrand, Denmark Joined: 21 Dec 2004
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You mean this one; http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/bnpu/ho_04.3.228.htm?
No I don't think that is the one, it may be though - anyway it is very similar to the Dutch one. The fluted/twisted top must have taken some time and skill to make. It is a very beautiful helmet.
Here is another picture of a kettlehat/early morion http://www.arador.com/gallery/friend13.jpg, from The Cleveland Museum of Art, dated 1400-1468(?!). I guess that explains what the holes in the brim of the kettlehat in Hisham's first post in this thread is there for.
Mvh.
Jakob
Quia Possum
(Because I can)
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This is one of my all-time favorite helms. I have a photo if it positioned with a bevor but I don't know which book it is in. |
There's such a photo in Osprey Publishing's "The Swiss at War 1300-1500" (Men-At-Arms 94), page 32 to exact.
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Anton de Vries
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Bestarmour.com makes these:
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Daniel Staberg
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Also available as part of a bestarmour partial harness
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Wolfgang Armbruster
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That's really a beautiful piece, at least the original one. The replicas are missing some details.
It almost looks like a mixture of a morion and a kettle hat. A very useful design, that is 
Good protection from blows/arrows from the side and above. When someone is trying to strike your face, you just do the turtle 
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Jon Terris
Location: U.K. Joined: 14 Nov 2005
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Arms and Armour of the Medieval Knight (by David Edge) and also The Armourer and his Craft (Charles Ffoukes) both refer to this type of bevor (specifically made for a chapel de fer) as a BARBOTE (note the O!). Apparently they were very popular in Spain.
I do plan to make one to match my wifes kettle hat when I get a chance.
(number 1004 on the list of things to make or do! 
Jon.
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This is a standard topic
