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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 12:24 pm    Post subject: Examples from the Musée de l'Armée Paris         Reply with quote

Some pieces from this excellent collection to share with you.

The first sword is dated 1350 A.D.



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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 12:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The next sword is French and is dated 1480 A.D. Look at the close-up of the blade and how well it is preserved.


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 12:27 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The following is the sword made for Francois I, the blade is Italian attributed to 1480 A.D.


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 12:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A rapier with an enameled handle


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Other swords


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 12:30 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Look at that Scottish Claymore, that is really lovely.


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 1:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thank you

As for the writing IN BRACHIO SVO it just means in his arm
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello all!

Manoucher,

This is why I love this site!
Thanks for the lovely photos. I've seen drawings of the first two swords, but never photos of the actual pieces. The first sword, the possible royal sword dated 1350, is Type XIV. 8 in Ewart Oakeshott's Records of the Medieval Sword. The inscription reads (according to Oakeshott): "NULLA DE VIRTUTIBUS TUIS MAJOR CLEMENTIA EST" ("Nothing of your virtues is greater than clemency"). It's nice to see a different type XIV; there aren't a lot of them out there. It's also nice to see the gold plating on the hilt in colour.

The second sword and scabbard, dated 1480, is in a black & white illustration in Paul Martin's Arms and Armour from the 9th to the 17th Century. According to the caption in Martin's book, the sword is the parade sword of the Constable of France. It's lovely to see this in colour.

Thanks again for sharing!

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 2:39 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for that! Reminds me that I really should visit this museum again Happy

Bruno Giordan wrote:

As for the writing IN BRACHIO SVO it just means in his arm


In fact it's said in the notice that the writing begins on the other side of the sword and reads:

FECIT POTENTIAM / IN BRACHIO SUO

a verse from the Magnificat.

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 3:02 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Vincent Le Chevalier wrote:
Thanks for that! Reminds me that I really should visit this museum again Happy

Bruno Giordan wrote:

As for the writing IN BRACHIO SVO it just means in his arm


In fact it's said in the notice that the writing begins on the other side of the sword and reads:

FECIT POTENTIAM / IN BRACHIO SUO

a verse from the Magnificat.

Regards


He gave power (strength) to this arm (literally: he made power into his arm).
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing. Happy

The two swords under the claymore look nice also, and so the Swiss degen in the right corner of the same pic...

Edit : the notice of the first sword says it has a fuller. Can't see it from here however.
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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 4:19 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hello again!
Hugo Voisine wrote:

the notice of the first sword says it has a fuller. Can't see it from here however.


Hugo,
Oakeshott's illustration of this sword in Records of the Medieval Sword, a type XIV from circa 1300-1350, certainly shows a fuller. It probably just didn't show in Manoucher's photos.

Here's Oakshott's illustration of that particular sword in the Musee de l'Armee, Paris:



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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 4:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The fuller is a bit more visible in this version, with some exposure compensation.


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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 5:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi Nathan,

Thank you. Yes indeed it has a fuller. Thanks for working on the picture. It looks much nicer now. :-)

The next sword is attributed to Kind Henry II and is described as an estoc.



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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 5:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Bruno Giordan wrote:
Thank you

As for the writing IN BRACHIO SVO it just means in his arm


You are welcome Bruno. Which sword are you talking about? Sorry I am confused.

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 5:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Richard Fay wrote:
Hello all!

Manoucher,


Thanks again for sharing!


You are welcome Richard. Thanks for the information.

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Vincent Le Chevalier wrote:
Thanks for that! Reminds me that I really should visit this museum again Happy

Bruno Giordan wrote:

As for the writing IN BRACHIO SVO it just means in his arm


In fact it's said in the notice that the writing begins on the other side of the sword and reads:

FECIT POTENTIAM / IN BRACHIO SUO

a verse from the Magnificat.

Regards


Now I see what Bruno meant. Thanks Vincent.

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 5:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hugo Voisine wrote:
Thanks for sharing. Happy

The two swords under the claymore look nice also, and so the Swiss degen in the right corner of the same pic...

Edit : the notice of the first sword says it has a fuller. Can't see it from here however.


You are welcome Hugo.

Kind regards

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for posting all of these great pictures! It really makes a difference for someone in an area with not so many good museums. I really appreciate it.

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PostPosted: Sat 30 Dec, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That estoc of Henry II's is awesome. Check out the Hs forming cross-guard finials and incorporated into the side ring and pommel. Very unusual.
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