Hi im interested in buying a grosse messer, but i dont really want to go a custom route for financial constraints. and after reading the review for the cold steel grosse messer and hearing what happened to a few owned by forum users i am going to stay away from that one. but in the review for the messer it mentions one thats one mueseum replicas limited made by windlass steelcrafts, yet i have been on the site and im unable to find it. is it discontinued or does anyone know where i can look at one? also is it two handed like the cold steel one? thanks in advance

The Windlass model has been discontinued for a long, long time now.

HAHAHA thanks again nathan, you always seem to be there to help me out XD i figured as much, everytime i searched for it it came up with the cold steel one.....and i avoid that one like the plague

Just for the record,
My Instructor owns the MRL model. In a nutshell It felt heavy and not very lively in the hands.
I also heard a couple stories of the blade being brittle.

Also, for the record, I don't hate the Cold Steel grosse messer. Yes, it's heavy; and yes, the cross guard is ugly and modern looking. However, many respected reproduction swords are just as heavy, or nearly so. The blade is a monster, and there is a lot of cutting power. It is a great sword for building up sword swining muscle. It also has decent balance.

It is a very simple, almost elegant weapon. Overbuilt, but so was a certain famous Scottish sword.

its not the look of it i dislike, but the fact i heard the hilt breaks. i actually like the look of it, and idk if they made newr versions with improved hilt structure?

Chris,

I own the Cold Steel version and I love it! It's a tough sword and the rosewood grip slabs are beautiful. The blade is not brittle at all. I use it as a live steel practice blade for my Albion Knecht. You can buy the sword for around $160.00 from the link below---they are a reliable dealer. Quit letting people scare you---for the price you can't go wrong.



http://www.swordcenter.com/

i guess you are right, it is only 160 dollars. im not sure i may end up picking one up to see for myself, thanks to everyone for there responses.

Hey Chris,
I was only talking about the MRL messer. If it helps with the CS decision, I have heard the CS return policy /customer service is excellent when it comes to replacing a broken product.