Artis Aboltins wrote: | ||||
Perharps it would be more apropriate to move it from makers and Manfacturers forum to the Historical Arms Talk? And, indeed, there is wealth of information in this thread. |
I second that!
Artis Aboltins wrote: | ||||
Perharps it would be more apropriate to move it from makers and Manfacturers forum to the Historical Arms Talk? And, indeed, there is wealth of information in this thread. |
Shane Allee wrote: |
Jeroen
I look forward to seeing your La tene with the stacked grip. I really really like the idea of this style of grip just because it is something odd. It is interesting how we see the same concept applied today in grips in plastic toys and things. Sadly I haven’t been able to generate enough interest in anyone to even try and make one of these. I want to say that only one or maybe two appear to have had organics between the plates. A much smaller bronze spacer seems to have been more common. Don’t think that I’d would do leather if I was to do organics though, I’d stick with something like bone or horn that is more solid and won’t compress as much. |
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All dating of these seem to put them in the La Tene III period, even though at first glance that isn’t what I would guess. Naturally with the more shallow bell guard it makes a person think earlier and even the blades to an extent. I do see that they are La Tene III. The bell guard does seem to have a unique curve that we really only seem on these with the stacked grips. The curve is more shallow then we typically see that late, but the center curve is also wider then typical for the La Tene II types. One of these that I got to drawing out really didn’t have all that much room between the top of the bell guard and the first bronze spacer. There is a lot of work in those spacers though. At least sometimes they have a clear taper to them so that they can’t all be the same size. Then you have the small grooves and often times a series of larger grooves cut in the edge. It is really like 20-30 individual seppa for a Japanese sword. It should all make for a really neat sword though. |
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There are just so many things out there to make and so little time to make them.
Shane |
Christian Böhling wrote: |
I use to give each sword a name....will you help me to find a good one? |
Jeroen Zuiderwijk wrote: |
Yup. If you were to guess, what would in your mind be the most likely shape of the pommel and bolter? Stylized anthropomorphic, with points extending downwards from the bolter and upwards from the pommel? Or doggy bone? Or more basic, with a dome/mushroom shaped pommel? |
Nathan Robinson wrote: |
This topic has been promoted into a Spotlight Topic.
It's extremely unusual to have a topic in the "Makers" forum hit spotlight status, but so much good info is contained here that it's totally appropriate. It goes far and wide beyond the showing of one's work. Good job! |
Petr Florianek wrote: |
Hello gentlemen!
I would like to replikate or craft item inspired by the find, which is now in Schleswik museum. Its not my usual interest period so i am little confused. Could you chime in and advice few things? 1) whats the dating, i assume 2nd century AD, but i dont know 2)what kind of blade? lenticular? diamond? welded edges? san mai? or just wrought? is it possible 3)Does the scabbard match? thanks in advance! |
Jeroen Zuiderwijk wrote: | ||||||
Hi Shane, I was hoping you'd chime in on this, as you know a lot more on la Tene swords then I do :)
I know stacked leather can work as a grip. Peter has discussed some Roman iron age swords that showed that they may have had grips entirely of stacked leather IIRC. But having held some knives with stacked leather grips, I know that this works quite well. Wood, horn and bone can also work, but will be a massive job to make the very thin plates, and also making sure they fit seemlessly between the bronze rings. Leather in that respect is a lot easier. I don't know however how they would finish the edges of the leather smooth with the bronze plates with the tools they had.
Yup. If you were to guess, what would in your mind be the most likely shape of the pommel and bolter? Stylized anthropomorphic, with points extending downwards from the bolter and upwards from the pommel? Or doggy bone? Or more basic, with a dome/mushroom shaped pommel? As I haven't got a clue on this one personally :)
True, which is probably why always sleep too little :) |
Christian Böhling wrote: |
hey, I found a pic of a sword I did ages ago with kind of antropomorphic design... You know what? First day I had it finished, one of the upwards tending arms broke off.... no, if they were made like this, they would have had stabilized it with a brass or iron plate, and we were able to see such a thing on the originals? |
Nathan Robinson wrote: |
This topic has been promoted into a Spotlight Topic.
It's extremely unusual to have a topic in the "Makers" forum hit spotlight status, but so much good info is contained here that it's totally appropriate. It goes far and wide beyond the showing of one's work. Good job! |