Titel: »Schwert mit Scheide«
Datierung: 1512 - 1541
Material / Technik: Gesamtlänge: 117 cm, Klinge: 80 cm; Gewicht: 1830 g
Standort: Rüstkammer
Inventarnummer: VI 365, XI 213
Abbildungsvorlage: Verfügbar als Ektachrom oder High-End-Scan
Bestellnummer: RK-VI-365-PS01.tif
Rechteinhaber: Staatliche Kunstsammlungen Dresden
Aufnahme: Klut / Estel

English translation:

Title: "sword with sheath"
dating: 1512 - 1541
Material/technology: Overall length: 117 cm, blade: 80 cm; Weight: 1830 g
Location: Preparation chamber
inventory number: VI 365, XI 213
illustration collecting main: Available as Ektachrom or High end Scan
Part number: RK-VI-365-PS01.tif
Right owner: National art collections Dresden
Admission: Klut/Estel

So a high-resolution image or chrome is available!! Peter, are you planning on trying to obtain this from the museum?

As it turns out, I have a scan of this sword in my library. I'm unsure of where it was published, as I don't have record of that, but here is the image.

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Rüstkammer
Künstler / Herkunft: Deutsch
Titel: »Schwert mit Scheide«
Standort: Rüstkammer

Wow, that double fuller is tiny. Would it have any real effect on performance on that huge blade, or do you guys think its mostly decorative?

You guys are fantastic. In a few hours you've pulled up the swords location, pictures, stats and a portrait of the original owner. I don't think it was a good idea to annoy that guy. He looks a little unstable. Certainly the kind of guy who could appreciate the power this sword would generate. An 80 cm long blade that weighs 1830 grams is on the hefty side.

Absolutly amazing. And only four pounds for a blade of that size! I must have a reproduction of something similar.

Nathan, this place has got to be one of the finest -if not the finest- sword resources on the web to date.

Now that I see high res. photos of it I'm *really* liking this sword.

Peter,

If you happen to do a recreation of this one please give me first choice.

Good morning!

Thanks guys :D

While I´ve been sleeping you´ve found all I need to know to be able to proceed. Now it is just a matter of making a pilgrimage to Dresden. I need to study this sword closer.
Perhaps I can even get to document it carefully.
We´ll see.
Dresden seems to be a nice place with all thses art museums and historical relics of high interest. Never been there before.

I need to make a sword like this.
Just look at that scabbard!
The lenght (blade and total) and weight are quite similar to the sword of Svante Nilsson Sture, btw.

Thanks again!

I tried to make a scale drawing of the sword. There may be something wrong with the stats. If you assume the total length of 117 cm is correct the blade turns out to be 88.5 centimeters long (just under 35 inches). Eight centimeters longer than the museum's stats. If you go by a blade length of 80 cm then the sword ends up too short. It is the version with the longer blade that looks more natural. It becomes the size of a warsword.

I added an attachment showing a comparison to the Svante sword. There is only a centimeter difference in total length. The Svante has a blade length of 33,5 inches and the Heinrich sword on the right still has a slightly longer blade.

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Comparison to the Svante sword. [ Download ]

Kenneth,

I did the same today and arrived at the same conclusion. I think the blade length is around 88 cm and the total length is 117 cm
Interesting to see these two swords side by side, isn´t it?

I guess we´ll have to wait untill I can get a measurement made or someone at the armoury returns my message with some more exact info...

It is really splendid that this sword has survived and in such good condition!

Just doing the conversions in my head, I come up with an overall length of roughly 43" which is about 3" shorter than the Svante sword and seems right for the stated 32" blade which might be handier considering the width. Why did you compare this with the Svante at the same overall length?Compare the implied 11" grip with this one by Christian Fletcher.

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My mistake. In my initial conversion I overlooked the tens digit and figured it from 107cm.

They must be quite unusual these XXII swords. I never cared about the one in "Records" (XXII.1) beacuse Oakeshott had it as a royal parade sword.

The likeness to the Svante sword suggests that this may be a very high quality sword. And it should be, like the Svante it was owned by a man of very high status. Probably custom made.

The letters "HK" on the rainguard, might they be the owners initials?

Not Heckler & Koch? :D

:eek: When i zoom in on Nathan's picture so looks all letter H like they are cut off in center,
can it be like IK or KI or IIV or IVI or VII, something short in Latin :confused: :D

:D Well! i am not alone about thinking on it, can i see :D

Heinrich die Fromme (pious) was very religious and he was a Martin Luther fan
so i belive i have one for KI or K1

Kleiner Katechismus 1.Gebot:
Ich bin der Herr, dein Gott. Du sollst nicht andere Götter haben neben mir.

Little Catechism 1. bid/pray:
I am your lord, your God. You should not have any other god's beside me.


:D Uuuh! not me.
Patrik