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Jesse Frank
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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2005 5:29 am    Post subject: Seax Tutoral         Reply with quote

Hi everybody.

I introduced myself on another thread, but I'll do it again here Happy

Well, my name is Jesse Frank, and I have been involved in bladesmithing for several years. I do mostly migration era/viking stuff, but I've recently been diving into the japanese nonferrous world of mokume gane, and recently started in on a tanto, so we'll see where that takes me
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I thought you all might get a kick out of a seax that I've been working on.

I decided I wanted to make a traditionally pattern welded seax out of one bar of mild steel, in preparation for my upcoming projects from my own self made iron.

It started out as a roughly 3' bar of mild steel, cut into 4" lengths. I carburized seven, and four were left alone. Four HC bars for the edge, and the core layered with the remainder.

Here is the core billet welded and etched.


Here is the whole thing with the cores drawn, twisted, and squared, and the edge welded, drawn and squared. It is ready to be wired and welded. The whole of the work was done by hand; Garret Mcormack helped out with an 8lb sledge.


Here it is forged and profiled. I took the cross peen to the spine to make the blodida pattern more pronounced in places. I want it to look sort of wild and organic.
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Jesse Frank
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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2005 5:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here it is fresh from the sen


Here it is after rough filing


Here it is with a quick etch, still with a file finish after heat treat


More to come.


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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2005 5:41 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Looks pretty cool, Jesse! Thanks for sharing this interesting project with us. Perhaps one day, I'll try my hand at something like this... someday. For now, I'll just watch and learn.

Definitely post some finished product pics, would you please?

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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2005 5:50 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I sure will...Hopefully I'll put the handle on today Happy
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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2005 2:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here it is with the drawing of the handle, and some of the handle components.
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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2005 2:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What kind of ferrous components are you thinking of for the handle, bronze, steel?

Bone would be a great addition in there.

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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2005 2:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I love seeing these types of in-progress photo essays. I hope to see more of them!
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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2005 3:37 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks, guys Happy

I'm gonna put thin copper spacers in there, hopefully it'll look cool. I've got some mastadon bone I'm gonna use for the first and last pieces. That is some dense stuff! Eek!

Looks like I won't be able to get to the handle 'till tuesday.......
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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2005 5:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very nice Jesse. Will this be for sale or is it a personal project?
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PostPosted: Fri 20 May, 2005 5:33 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Patrick Kelly wrote:
Very nice Jesse. Will this be for sale or is it a personal project?


I really thought so as well.... and I'm hoping he just sold it! Wink

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PostPosted: Sat 21 May, 2005 4:32 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jesse - thanks for sharing the progress photos. They really help in understanding the process.
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PostPosted: Sat 21 May, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I also love these kind of threads. It amazes me how someone can take just a bunch of steel, and turn it into something beautiful especially you crazy blokes who do pattern welding. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat 21 May, 2005 11:00 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks everybody Happy

It is spoken for.

If there is interest, I'll be more than happy to continue with more threads like this. It's really fun Happy

I hope it gets people fired up to do it.

I won't be able to get back to it 'till tuesday, gotta work Worried dern bills WTF?!
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PostPosted: Sun 22 May, 2005 9:56 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jesse Frank wrote:
Thanks everybody Happy
If there is interest, I'll be more than happy to continue with more threads like this. It's really fun Happy
WTF?!


Please do! I am enjoy this very much! Beautiful work on the sax!
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PostPosted: Sun 22 May, 2005 2:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Tom Carr wrote:
Jesse Frank wrote:
Thanks everybody Happy
If there is interest, I'll be more than happy to continue with more threads like this. It's really fun Happy

Please do! I am enjoy this very much! Beautiful work on the sax!

Ditto. More, please!
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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2005 10:22 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here is the glue that I make, called cutlers resin. It's a mixture of pine pitch, beeswax, and wood or bone shavings. It needs to be heated, I use a little achohol burner I made for it.


Here it is all glued up and clamped.
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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2005 10:36 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This is REALLY coming together nicely! Thanks for the update, Jesse!

The little bit of research I have done on Cutler's Resin has yielded some interesting information - strength, durability, flexibility, utility for affixing dissimilar materials, the ability to hold up under disparate expansion, waterproof qualities, and the fact that it doesn't creap through material. What I didn't find was an explanation on how it is to work with. Could you enlighten me a bit?

It looks pretty straight-forward, and I just may have to try this stuff out with an upcoming project.

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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2005 11:16 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Excellent work Jesse! You’re making the future Seax owner very happy and a lot of people envious.

This is a great thread, a lot of my non sword fan friends think the prices for swords and most weapons are outrageous,
They don't understand the time and effort that is put into creating process. After I send them to this thread hopefully they will.
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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2005 6:23 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks, guys.

The cutlers resin definitely has a learning curve to it. It needs to be worked hot, so it's easy to scald yourself. In some ways, it's not as user friendly as epoxy, but you have the ability to fix things pretty easily. I stick it in the oven at 200f for 15 minutes or so to soften it up. If you decide to collect pitch locally, make sure and test out different kinds of sap. There can be a huge difference between tree types. Look for stuff that's already dried, runny sap is not much good.

A lot of this info I got from a guy named Tai Goo, who does presice work in a primitive style. Really neat stuff. A good portion of it I got at Don Foggs forum.
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PostPosted: Tue 24 May, 2005 9:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Im always impressed by anyone who can do this kinda stuff, i KNOW i'd mess it up some how. But i have to say that's a pretty nice piece you have going. You can definitly see a little bit of your work with Japanese weapons influencing this piece a bit. but the overall look is quite impressive.
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