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Joe Fults
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| Patrick Kelly wrote: | People,
Is it really that important what MT calls their product? As they say, a picture's worth a thousand words. Instead of overthinking the semantics of a company's sales pitch wouldn't it be more productive to simply decide if the product is suitable to your indiviual needs? |
In my case, due to my inexperience with the topic of armor, I drew incorrect conclusions based on what I saw and did not understand. This could be fixed by asking, and in my case effectively has been now, but not everyone stops to ask.
"The goal shouldn’t be to avoid being evil; it should be to actively do good." - Danah Boyd
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Jean Thibodeau
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| Posted: Fri 19 Aug, 2005 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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Patrick;
Personally I'm not very concerned about what M.T. armour is called and I was just reacting to the mistaken belief that it was supposed to be " historical " munitions armour replicas. 
I was hoping that bringing this up might be useful in being sure that we were using the right words for the right thing: Previous comments made me think that some people may have come to the above conclusion, historical armour, and thus judging the product using the wrong criteria.
Like biting into an apple and complaining that this orange tastes ODD !
On another note: I think Lloyd Clark can inform us as to results from destructive testing of some pieces of M.T. armour that he has done or soon will. ( I remember his mentioning this and I am very curious, also it might take this discussion in more productive direction. )
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Jonathon Janusz
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| Posted: Fri 19 Aug, 2005 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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An MT breastplate took a couple of arrow shots without deformation on the side that normally holds the squishy bits. . .
and it took a good few swings (and the target was held firmly stationary at the time) with the backspike of a horseman's hammer to get the crusader helm to have a 2cm diameter (approx) hole torn through the crown. In my opinion, if the helmet wouldn't have had a flat top and wouldn't have been held such that the weapon was at an angle to get a good grab on the surface, the only thing the user would have experienced wearing it would have been a ringing as the hammer glanced off or maybe a neck injury if the hammer would have hooked a "corner" where the top of the helmet met the sides and pulled the head in an awkward direction.
Lastly, using the breastplate that took the arrow shots and the helmet MT sent to Lloyd's show earlier this season as a basis of comparison, Allan and company can produce some very nice looking armor - just probably nowhere near the price point of the regular stock 
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