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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 4:02 pm    Post subject: Viking helm photo.         Reply with quote

Here's a photo of my Medieval Reproductions spectacle helm.


This gives a better idea of the finish and proportion of the helm, as opposed to the photos in the recent review that had to be muted due to reflection.

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 4:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Can't fool me you ARE SMILING inside. Razz Cool Laughing Out Loud


Seriously: Nice helm congratulations. Big Grin

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 4:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Comemawn Patrick Halloweens on Monday you should take a cruiser out a write a few tickets dressed like that. I'm sure not arguing with you(yes sir your absoulutely right I was speeding).
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Pretty righteous, Patrick! Definitely a sweet piece - very well executed, very clean, nice proportions, nice fit.

There's quite a bit on Fuller's website that has my eye...

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 4:56 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

ooo, very impressive. Happy

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 4:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is a really nice piece, Patrick. As for me, I would be afraid to wear it, for fear of clumsily scratching up that beautiful finish.
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 5:38 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I love your norse kit, Patrick. Every piece is well made, accurate (not sure on the shield), and fascinating. Now all we need to do is pool our resources and get you a stick-on forked beard.... Unless your department has really really flexible facial hair standards.
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very, very nice Patrick. It's great to see a reproduction spectacle helm that isn't grossly out-sized, I like the shape and fit of this one a lot. It really makes for an enormous difference in appearance! Much more intimidating this way.
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 6:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jean Thibodeau wrote:
Can't fool me you ARE SMILING inside. Razz Cool Laughing Out Loud


Seriously: Nice helm congratulations. Big Grin


Hey now! That's my happy face. Razz

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 6:41 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Allan Senefelder wrote:
Comemawn Patrick Halloweens on Monday you should take a cruiser out a write a few tickets dressed like that. I'm sure not arguing with you(yes sir your absoulutely right I was speeding).


Allan, no one ever argues with Trooper Love. I'm so sweet and cuddly after all.

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gavin Kisebach wrote:
I love your norse kit, Patrick. Every piece is well made, accurate (not sure on the shield), and fascinating. Now all we need to do is pool our resources and get you a stick-on forked beard.... Unless your department has really really flexible facial hair standards.


Thanks Gavin. This is the shield before I painted it: http://www.myArmoury.com/pat_othr_mt_vshld.html?7

No thanks on the beard. I wore enough of that stick-on stuff during my long-haired days as a thespian. Big Grin

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 6:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

C.L. Miller wrote:
Very, very nice Patrick. It's great to see a reproduction spectacle helm that isn't grossly out-sized, I like the shape and fit of this one a lot. It really makes for an enormous difference in appearance! Much more intimidating this way.


Thanks C.L. Proportion is an extremely important thing in helmet design. Far too many modern repros are made too large. This is especially true with this type, as well as the "norman" conical helm. Pete did an excellent job fitting this one (especially since I wasn't there for the fitting!). It fits perfectly and if it was any smaller it wouldn't fit.

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 7:03 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Since you've said that many don't consider an arming cap appropriate for this period, may I ask how much, or how little, padding the leather suspension provides? How effective do you feel this helm would be in protecting against concussion?
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 7:06 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

The beard idea would help, but not everyone can fancy 'em! I know I probably won't whether it's to stick on, or is real (still waiting to get to the age where I'll find out!)

The kit looks great. Any chance you can take a shot of the whole thing? Do you have proper pants/winingas, if you're using them, and good turnshoes? A nice belt, etc..? It'd be neat to see the whole get up! Considering the level of accuracy we see in just this top portion of it all, I'm sure many are holding their breathe to see what it'll all be like done and over with!

Helmet is great, very nice fit, as mentioned several times. He DID size it perfectly, 'eh! Awesome, indeed. Take care, Patrick and fellow forumites!

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 7:43 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

beautiful helmet Patrick,
reenacting the dark ages I find the spectacle helms are brilliant, they just protect my glasses so nicely on the field (I am unable to wear contacts unfortuantly)
Again that is a beautiful helm.
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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 8:08 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gregory J. Liebau wrote:

The kit looks great. Any chance you can take a shot of the whole thing? Do you have proper pants/winingas, if you're using them, and good turnshoes? A nice belt, etc..? It'd be neat to see the whole get up! Considering the level of accuracy we see in just this top portion of it all, I'm sure many are holding their breathe to see what it'll all be like done and over with!


Hi Gregory,

Here's a photo of the entire soft kit.


This outfit is more of an 11th century anglo-norman persona rather than a dedicated viking one. (which is why that photo is only from the waist up, otherwise you'd see me in a tunic with shorts and bare feet) The belt is meant to go with the viking kit since the fittings are based off of swedish finds of that era. I'm not too happy with the way my norman belt came out so it will be replaced eventually. The winningas and shoes can be used for either. Eventually I'll be using another tunic for the nordic kit as I think this one looks too 11th century for that.

This pouch is also hanging from my belt next to the seax, though you can't see it in the photo.
Available here: http://www.nmia.com/~bohemond/Bootshop/pouch-...-pouch.htm

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 8:13 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Cameron A wrote:
beautiful helmet Patrick,
reenacting the dark ages I find the spectacle helms are brilliant, they just protect my glasses so nicely on the field (I am unable to wear contacts unfortuantly)
Again that is a beautiful helm.


Thanks!

Do you think I can have a pair of bi-focal lenses fitted to the ocular? Laughing Out Loud

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 8:21 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

C.L. Miller wrote:
Since you've said that many don't consider an arming cap appropriate for this period, may I ask how much, or how little, padding the leather suspension provides? How effective do you feel this helm would be in protecting against concussion?


The suspension does hold the helm off of the cranium so it isn't resting flat on my head. That being said: I think you'd be fairly okay in taking a glancing blow from a sword or an arrow from a bow of the period. However, a solid blow from a heavy axe or other weapon would definetly ring you bell. I really can't say what kind of padding was used during the viking age, although there's no evidence for seperate garments like arming caps. You guess is as good as mine.

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 8:25 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Maybe you can have silver mirror finished glasses put in the oculars and them you could be Olaf the Eyeless and scare the snot out of the other Vikings who will think you can see through solid steel: Magic warriors are SO scary !

I guess that might be a bit not period. Razz Laughing Out Loud

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PostPosted: Wed 26 Oct, 2005 10:28 pm    Post subject: Viking Helm         Reply with quote

Nice! Uh, that sword aint too bad either!


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