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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 9:06 am    Post subject: Museum Photos         Reply with quote

Here are some of my study photos from the Frazier Museum of International History (formerly the Frazier Arms Museum). These reflect my own interests and are selected to show details of construction and decoration. I can pick details from larger-res images and supply ID info as requested. I'll have to post in a few groups, so check back more than once. Enjoy!

See also Chad Arnow's Visitor's Experience article featuring the Frazier: http://www.myArmoury.com/feature_visit_frazier.html

And check out Chad's album of Frazier images for different views of the items shown in this thread: http://www.myArmoury.com/albums/thumbnails.php?album=191



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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

An English sword, mid-17th c. Notice how the knucklebow and side bow are attached to/near the pommel.


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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 9:28 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

An exceptional Italian sword of ca. 1540:


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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 9:31 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Serious sweetness! Can you tell me more about the spear with hook? Approximate date, region? Is the hook part of the spearhead or a separate item riveted on?
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 9:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Michael S. Rivet wrote:
Serious sweetness! Can you tell me more about the spear with hook? Approximate date, region? Is the hook part of the spearhead or a separate item riveted on?


That's something special, huh? It's probably Italian, late 15th c. The haft is modern. The hook also serves as a rivet, with that massive, pyramidal peen block. Note the spear's very thick tip.

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ah, the Germans! A Dussack of ca. 1600 and a very fine Katzbalger of ca. 1535:


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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

A classic mortuary sword and an early 17th c. English basket hilt:


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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 9:58 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Details of an American hanger and scabbard (Russ!) of ca. 1770, owned by Josiah Bartlett:


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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Edit: I added a close view of the spear tip, a sharper view of the hook and another angle on the proto-mort that shows new details, including pommel decoration.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 10:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I used the term "peen block" with reference to the spear's hook, but that may not be accurate. I can't tell if the head was created first, the shaft passed through the the socket and then spread, shaped and bent, or if the hook was created, passed through the socket "head" first and the head then peened.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Almost forgot the 1804 cutlass:


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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That is the coolest katzbalger I have ever seen! I have never been a huge fan, but that one stands out. Be nice to see a talented smith reproduce that piece.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Great stuff, I was just recently at the Frazier and was very impressed with their collection, as well a the living history demonstrations by the reenactors there.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 5:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Fantastic pictures, thank you for sharing. The hilts shots are great!
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sean,

Thanks for posting pics of the mortuary & the early proto-mort......you know me....like a moth to the flame.......


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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Is the pommel on the proto-mort typical? It seems a little odd.
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sean Flynt wrote:
I used the term "peen block" with reference to the spear's hook, but that may not be accurate. I can't tell if the head was created first, the shaft passed through the the socket and then spread, shaped and bent, or if the hook was created, passed through the socket "head" first and the head then peened.




Hmmm...interesting question.....I suppose the hook could have been formed cold...though I'd lean toward hot judging by its diameter...in which case it almost definitely would have been created first as already having it mounted through the socket and then putting it in the forge would be not be good for the shaft at all Wink

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PostPosted: Wed 02 May, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Justin King wrote:
Is the pommel on the proto-mort typical? It seems a little odd.


I haven't seen many of these, but they do seem to have been common. My guess is that we don't see them on display much because they're so crudely made and finished. The one shown below is in the Tower of London and is of similar form. Some early 17th c. Scottish basket hilts have discoidal pommels, albeit more refined versions, so there may be some connection there.



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PostPosted: Wed 02 May, 2007 9:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Agree with Sean, as to most proto-morts were of munition grade, so not alot of detail went into them.


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PostPosted: Wed 09 May, 2007 11:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sean,
It's allways a treat to see pictures from museums, and especially when one get to see the details. The basket hilt, the morts and the Dussag are very interesting.

The inlayed silver on the English basket hilt is a very nice detail. I've only seen pictures of a few other baskets with this feature, but not quite like that one. Did you get to see how the front bar (main knuckle guard) was decorated?

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