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Jeroen Zuiderwijk
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| Jeff Pringle wrote: | I like the ones with semi-sword hilts, but they are definitely not the usual seax...
http://www.geheugenvannederland.nl/gvn/search...code=RMO01
(click on photo for a better look)
 There are no Frankish repros because there are no Frankish reenactors, perhaps the Vikings kidnapped them all... 
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There's plenty actually, but usually dressed up as Frankish kings, but without proper langsaxes  (mostly Paul Binn's ones) The best thing I've found online so far is this:
http://www.hakun-risti.de/Scheiden.html
The scabbards look pretty good (actually based on finds, rather then fantasy ones), even if the incised decoration is rather basic, or not existant (two sax scabbards finds I know have much more complex decorations). But what captures my eyes most is the fact that proper wooden hilts are sticking out of most of them. Sadly there's no pictures of the saxes themselves, nor any information who made them. Might be worth contacting the site owner though.
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Fabrice Cognot
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| Posted: Wed 20 Jun, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| Jeroen Zuiderwijk wrote: | There are no Frankish repros because there are no Frankish reenactors, perhaps the Vikings kidnapped them all...
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There are Frankish reenactors, mind you. In France. Which means that most of them are technologically or liguisticly impaired, and thus have little visibiility on the English-speaking forums out there.
Though we also get our fair deal of Viking reenactors.
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Hugh Fuller
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There is a fellow in the United Kingdom who seems to offer a very wider variety of seaxes at what appear to be rather reasonable prices. He offers them with blades up to at least 61cm (24") and in rebated form for re-enactors or sharp form for living historians. I am in contact with him about a seax in the 43cm (11") range.
http://www.gm-historical-weapons.co.uk/
Hugh
Still trying to walk in the Light
Please see 1 John 1:5
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Jeff Pringle
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Location: Oakland, CA Joined: 19 Nov 2005
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I wasn't serious about there being no Frankish reenactors, and I'm sure if Americans spoke more German or French they'd be more visible on this side of the Atlantic. The Viking or Anglo-Saxon era(s) just have a much better marketing department in English speaking USA...
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Robin Smith
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Well actually, I'm a Norman at heart  I just wondered, since I'm the search for a backup to my my sword (which is a back up to my spear ). I am kind of tired of the "souvenier du Senlac" excuse Norman reenactors use to carry a Saxon style Seax. Currently all I have in backup to my sword is a little utility knife, and if I can find something proper I want something more imposing. Considering swords were not as common as they would be in later centuries, and most footmen at this time were still carrying just a shield and spear, surely they had something to fall back on. Anyone know what a lesser/landless Norman Miles would have fallen back to if he lost his sword, and spear was broke?
A furore Normannorum libera nos, Domine
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Hugh Fuller
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Actually, the big Paul Chen seax is based upon one in the Metropolitan Museum of Art in New York City that is called a Frankish Seax. For a look, see the first on this page:
http://www.viking-shield.com/knives.html
Hugh
Still trying to walk in the Light
Please see 1 John 1:5
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Jeroen Zuiderwijk
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Alright, I've been gathering some stuff together that I have regarding saxes throughout Europe. There's some articles and books included in Dutch and German. They have lots of interesting information, but I don't have the time to translate (in particular not the 300+ pages of the Alemannen book! ) But I may able to help translating some small bits. The file is 61.5Mb, so it's going to take a while to download:
http://1501bc.com/files/information_about_saxes.zip
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Kirk Lee Spencer
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Hey Jeroen,
Simply fantastic stuff... Thanks so much for making it available!
ks
Two swords
Lit in Eden’s flame
One of iron and one of ink
To place within a bloody hand
One of God or one of man
Our souls to one of
Two eternities
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Bram Verbeek
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This is a standard topic