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Dear friends,
I took this pictures behind the glass in a storgae room. There are basically hundreds of pieces of arms and armor that are not in exhibition but one can take a look at them behind the gladd. I took a pic of these axes. What are these?
Kind regards
Manouchehr
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Gordon Frye
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| Manouchehr M. wrote: | Pavis
Central European work 1480-1500
What was pavis used for? I mean by which troops?
KInd regards
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Manouchehr;
Generally, a pavise was the shield behind which a cross-bowman would crouch while reloading his crossbow. They often have a little wooden arm in the back to support it in order that the cross-bowman can just set it up to stand by itself on the ground, rather than having to be held in place while he's busy with his cross-bow.
As I recall, Italian cross-bowmen in general, and the Genoese in particular were fond of this sort of arrangement.
Cheers!
Gordon
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Manouchehr M.
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| Gordon Frye wrote: | | Manouchehr M. wrote: | Pavis
Central European work 1480-1500
What was pavis used for? I mean by which troops?
KInd regards
Manouchehr |
Manouchehr;
Generally, a pavise was the shield behind which a cross-bowman would crouch while reloading his crossbow. They often have a little wooden arm in the back to support it in order that the cross-bowman can just set it up to stand by itself on the ground, rather than having to be held in place while he's busy with his cross-bow.
As I recall, Italian cross-bowmen in general, and the Genoese in particular were fond of this sort of arrangement.
Cheers!
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Gordon,
Thank you very much my friend for your valuable input. Were they made only of wood? Look at the pictures I have the feeling that they were made of different materials. I have German book on Medieval shield making that says that shields were made of different layers of wood at times covered with leather. What is this pavis made of? Where can I find pictures of more examples of them?
Kind regards
Manouchehr
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Russ Ellis
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| Manouchehr M. wrote: | Dear friends,
I took this pictures behind the glass in a storgae room. There are basically hundreds of pieces of arms and armor that are not in exhibition but one can take a look at them behind the gladd. I took a pic of these axes. What are these?
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Hey Manouchehr,
According to Waldeman those are called Doloir or "waggoner's axes. He notes that although they might be used by Wagoner's for defense strictly speaking they were not weapons of war, but tools, to be used on a day to day basis and also defend oneself in extreme circumstances. He shows several period illustrations with such items in the hands of waggoners in his book.
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Hey Manouchehr,
According to Waldeman those are called Doloir or "waggoner's axes. He notes that although they might be used by Wagoner's for defense strictly speaking they were not weapons of war, but tools, to be used on a day to day basis and also defend oneself in extreme circumstances. He shows several period illustrations with such items in the hands of waggoners in his book.[/quote]
Hi Russ
Thank you very much for your input. Which book title is it?
Kind regards
Manouchehr
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Hey Manouchehr,
According to Waldeman those are called Doloir or "waggoner's axes. He notes that although they might be used by Wagoner's for defense strictly speaking they were not weapons of war, but tools, to be used on a day to day basis and also defend oneself in extreme circumstances. He shows several period illustrations with such items in the hands of waggoners in his book.[/quote]
Hi Russ
Thank you very much for your input. Which book title is it?
Kind regards
Manouchehr[/quote]
It's from his book Hafted Weapons in Medieval and Renaissance Europe: The Evolution of European Staff Weapons between 1200 and 1650. I'm sorry it's John Waldman not "Waldeman" as I previously posted.
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Brad Harada
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| Manouchehr M. wrote: | Dear friends,
I took this pictures behind the glass in a storgae room. There are basically hundreds of pieces of arms and armor that are not in exhibition but one can take a look at them behind the gladd. I took a pic of these axes. What are these?
Kind regards
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Manouchehr, please take a look at this link from Sotheby's:
http://62.173.116.70/partnerpages/Lot.aspx?Sa...=214268108
Those axes appear to be similar to the ceremonial Saxon Miner's Axe that is for sale in the link. I'd venture to say that the axes in your photo is of the same.
Brad
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Manouchehr M.
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French rapiers from 1520-1560 and other swords
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Manouchehr
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