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Kel Rekuta
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Posted: Tue 19 Jun, 2007 9:26 am Post subject: |
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Gentlemen, its nothing. No harm, no foul from any of us. We're all on the same page now.
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Chris Arrington
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Posted: Tue 19 Jun, 2007 10:39 am Post subject: |
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I'm far from an expert, but I know from my experience that lighter gauntlets are fine for swords and especially with basket hilts. But when fighting with a polearm (especially against other poles), I want MAIN BATTLE TANK quality hand protection.
Back when I use to fight in the SCA, and I know most of you here are going to flinch at the "anachronistic" nature of it but I was a poor college student, I use to wear lacrosse gloves with reinforcing clamshell plates of high impact plastic from the wrist gaurd up past the tips of the fingers. And I can still remember the day that, even with all that protection, I got hit directly in the "valley" between the 1st and 2nd knuckles of my right hand. Its suppose to be an illegal target, but I suspect that it was intentional. The guy was known for it. It dropped me to my knees, and I ended up in the emergency room. I couldn't open or close that hand for a week. I was quite supprised that nothing was broken.
I really like the looks of the gauntlet set in this thread. I would love to be able to afford a set.
Thanks for sharing !
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Sean Flynt
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Jean Thibodeau
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Posted: Tue 19 Jun, 2007 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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Sean: Interesting gauntlets but a little difficult to decipher some of the details. Are there any special features that you found particularly interesting or directly comparable to mine you wanted to attract our ( my ) attention to ?
In afraid I might be missing something specific you wanted to draw my attention to: They do look strongly built and with the bottom one aggressive and angular with projections having offensive potential.
If the top ones have finger scales + mitten plates I don't see the last clearly, although the seems to be some " shape " that I'm just wondering about that could be mitten plates, but I think I might just be trying to convince myself of that ! i.e. the hard to decipher details I mentioned at the beginning of my post.
Just curious if I'm understanding your intent or reaching too much.
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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Sean Flynt
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Allan Senefelder
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Posted: Wed 20 Jun, 2007 7:11 am Post subject: |
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Sean, in the second pic it actually appears that the glove is half fingered allowing the fingers to be free of the glove from the second knuckle to the fingertip. While not shown in the painting one would have to assume ( always dangerous) that there were leather loops through which the fingers passed. While this is a fairaley common feature on sport gauntlets( finger loops) today its interesting to see a period depiction of it.
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Jean Thibodeau
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Posted: Wed 20 Jun, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: |
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Sean Flynt wrote: | Two things caught my attention: First, both gloves appear to be quite thin, as we can see details of the hand beneath. That's further validation of your own choice of gloves. Second, it seems that some gauntlet wearers wanted their fingers to be free for some reason, presumably to be in closer contact with their weapon. |
Well my gloves are very supple while not being too thin but not very thick either, and I wanted to retain the flexibility of individual fingers and the advantages of the mitten plates.
Although I have using them in mind if I ever do some of the more full speed bouting or polearm work I just loved the look of Allan's standard mitten gauntlets and when I asked questions about the plus and minuses of the finger gauntlets versus the mitten gauntlets, Allan suggested this combined version with the best of both.
The mitten plate have a prominent ridge at the top of each plate that as well as increasing resistance to deformation give a nice hitting potential. One could almost fight using just the gauntlets .
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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