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Chad Arnow
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Here's a Cinquedea and scabbard from the Royal Armouries.
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Chad Arnow
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Here are some scans from Armi Bianche:
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Dagger-length cinquedea scabbard
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Full-sized cinquedea
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Back of the previous scabbard, showing where a cord or thong was threaded through for suspension.
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Front and back of another scabbard, showing a similar method of suspension from a belt.
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Bill Grandy
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Fantastic photos, Chad! The tooling on those sheaths is awesome.
I think I may need to pick up a copy of Armi Blanche at some point.
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"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Mon 03 Dec, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Bill Grandy wrote: | Fantastic photos, Chad! The tooling on those sheaths is awesome.
I think I may need to pick up a copy of Armi Blanche at some point. |
They're pretty cool aren't they? Armi Bianche is an amazing book. Good luck finding a copy. It's rare and usually $500 or more... But it's packed with tons of great photos.
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Bill Grandy
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| Posted: Mon 03 Dec, 2007 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Chad Arnow wrote: | | Good luck finding a copy. It's rare and usually $500 or more... |
Yeah, that's what's prevented me from getting it before. So far, anyway.
HistoricalHandcrafts.com
-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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Hugh Fuller
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Thanks, Chad. Those are really nice and the scabbard pics may be really helpful to Triton and myself in coming up witha scabbard and suspension for my Cinquedea.
Hugh
Still trying to walk in the Light
Please see 1 John 1:5
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Christopher Gregg
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Greetings!
I'm new to the forums, and I stumbled across this thread yesterday. Hugh, that Tinker Cinquedea is just gorgeous! I am a big fan of these little swords, too, although I have nothing to compare to yours. Chad, thanks for the pics of the sheaths: I've been wondering how these little guys were suspended from a belt for a long time. I wear my old Del Tin model suspended from leather thongs, but I wear mine from the side like a short arming sword (when at events).
BTW, and please don't laugh, but does anyone know exactly how "Cinquedea" is pronounced? I have heard several people swear their pronunciation is the correct one, but I have yet to be able to find it defined in any of the (scant) literature I have on the subject. Is it SIN-kwuh-de-uh, sin-KWEH-dee-uh, SINK-a-DEE-a, or something else?
P.S. I really love this site! Keep up the great work!
Christopher Gregg
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Chad Arnow
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| Posted: Wed 05 Dec, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: Re: Cinquedeas |
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| Christopher Gregg wrote: | Greetings!
I'm new to the forums, and I stumbled across this thread yesterday. Hugh, that Tinker Cinquedea is just gorgeous! I am a big fan of these little swords, too, although I have nothing to compare to yours. Chad, thanks for the pics of the sheaths: I've been wondering how these little guys were suspended from a belt for a long time. I wear my old Del Tin model suspended from leather thongs, but I wear mine from the side like a short arming sword (when at events).
BTW, and please don't laugh, but does anyone know exactly how "Cinquedea" is pronounced? I have heard several people swear their pronunciation is the correct one, but I have yet to be able to find it defined in any of the (scant) literature I have on the subject. Is it SIN-kwuh-de-uh, sin-KWEH-dee-uh, SINK-a-DEE-a, or something else?
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No problem.
Regarding pronunciation, I think the first step is getting the "C" right. According to what I've heard and read (http://www.askoxford.com/languages/it/toi_italian/pronunciation/), the "C" in this case gets a "ch" sound like in "ciao" (pronounced roughly "chow").
According to Dictionary.com, the whole word is pronounced "ching-kwi-dee-uh, -dey-uh."
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Bill Grandy
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| Posted: Wed 05 Dec, 2007 7:45 am Post subject: Re: Cinquedeas |
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| Christopher Gregg wrote: |
BTW, and please don't laugh, but does anyone know exactly how "Cinquedea" is pronounced? I have heard several people swear their pronunciation is the correct one, but I have yet to be able to find it defined in any of the (scant) literature I have on the subject. Is it SIN-kwuh-de-uh, sin-KWEH-dee-uh, SINK-a-DEE-a, or something else? |
Chad is right. The word is Italian, and most Italian speakers would say either "cheen-quah-DAY-uh", or "cheen-kah-DAY-uh".
HistoricalHandcrafts.com
-Inspired by History, Crafted by Hand
"For practice is better than artfulness. Your exercise can do well without artfulness, but artfulness is not much good without the exercise.” -anonymous 15th century fencing master, MS 3227a
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Christopher Gregg
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Thanks, Chad and Bill.
I'm pleased to say that at least I was pronouncing it closer to correct than others have indicated. I used a "S" instead of the "CH" sound in the first syllable, but at least I had the accent on the "DAY" syllable. 
Christopher Gregg
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