| What is your favorite general form of medieval European dagger or knife? |
| Ballock dagger |
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18% |
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| Baselard |
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14% |
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| Quillion dagger |
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21% |
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| Ear dagger |
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5% |
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| Rondel dagger |
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26% |
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| Knife |
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6% |
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| Other (please specify with a post) |
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7% |
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Nathan Robinson
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Marc Pengryffyn
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Posted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 2:16 am Post subject: |
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I have to vote "other" because my favorite would be a parrying dagger, with downcurved or s-shaped quillions, a side ring and a longish two-edged blade- maybe 12-14". Something along the lines of the A&A Musketeer Dagger, or their German Parrying Dagger, but with a longer blade. Sweet!
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Anders Backlund
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Posted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 3:02 am Post subject: |
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I'm not really a big dagger fan but I suppose it would be the quillion dagger.
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Mike Arledge
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Posted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Voted for other, while seax might be under the topic of knife, it really feels like its own thing.
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Stephen Curtin
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Posted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 5:55 am Post subject: |
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| Being a proud Irishman l'd have to say a skean, Oh and happy birthday myArmoury.com
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Christopher Gregg

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Posted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 6:59 am Post subject: |
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I voted "ballock dagger", but I'm including it's descendent, the Scottish Dirk, among the type. Alba go Bragh!
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Sean Flynt
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Posted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: |
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At the moment I'm very interested in utilitarian messers of the hauswehr/bauernwehr type. One rarely sees reproductions but they're all over German artwork of the late 15th and early 16th centuries.
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Posted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 10:16 am Post subject: |
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I think this says it all (this was actually one of my earliest posts at myArmoury, apologies for the awful photo):
One decade or another I will have it recreated.
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Dan P
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Posted: Mon 25 Aug, 2008 11:50 am Post subject: |
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I would say Bowie knife... but, you know, not European (although a great many bowie patterns were exported from England and the Continent to the US back in the day).
But parrying daggers are pretty awesome too.
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Sam Barris
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Posted: Tue 26 Aug, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: |
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I'm actually kind of a fan of the cinquedea. The traditional daggers here in Crete are quite stunning as well, but they have more of an eastern feel.
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Edward Hitchens
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Posted: Tue 26 Aug, 2008 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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For my favorite type of European dagger, I selected 'Other.'
I've always been partial to the so-called main gauche (or does this qualify as a quillion dagger?). Some are extremely elaborate! Even ones that aren't so fancy are still eye-catching in their own right and all can be used as a regular dagger or large knife.
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R D Moore

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Posted: Tue 26 Aug, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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I voted for the quillion type. I like the rondel and the ballock, too, but it's the quillions that really tug at me. In fact I've been eyeing the Aunlaz since last February when Craig posted it as a highlighted item. Of the three pictured in the attachments, I have the one on the top, the center one is on my short list, and the bottom one is on order. These pics came from Vladimir Cervenka's website and I encourage you to have a look.
Great contest, Nathan! Thanks for doing this!
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D. Bell

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Posted: Wed 27 Aug, 2008 3:18 am Post subject: |
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The seax is definitely my favourite knife but it's not really medieval, so I put in a vote for the quillion dagger.
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Justin B.

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Posted: Wed 27 Aug, 2008 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| D. Bell wrote: | | The seax is definitely my favourite knife but it's not really medieval, so I put in a vote for the quillion dagger. |
The seax is my favourite as well and, while I agree that they're not strictly medieval, I still voted for "other" for this reason (I guess it depends on which definition of "medieval" one adheres to). Quillion dagger would be my second choice.
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Allen W
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Posted: Fri 29 Aug, 2008 5:32 am Post subject: |
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| I'm partial to Holbeins.
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R D Moore

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Posted: Fri 29 Aug, 2008 8:50 am Post subject: |
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I found a picture of an historical "Aunlaz" that I thought everyone would enjoy.
Copyright to Logan Thompson
" Daggers and Bayonets A History" by Logan Thompson.
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Chad Arnow
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Posted: Fri 29 Aug, 2008 3:22 pm Post subject: |
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| R D Moore wrote: | I found a picture of an historical "Aunlaz" that I thought everyone would enjoy.
Copyright to Logan Thompson
" Daggers and Bayonets A History" by Logan Thompson. |
I believe we have a pic of that same dagger in the review:
Arma Bohemia has a picture of the Bayerisches Armeemuseum dagger, too:
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R D Moore

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Posted: Fri 29 Aug, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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I believe you're right! And much better photography, I believe
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Posted: Sat 30 Aug, 2008 1:25 pm Post subject: Messer, Hauswehr, Bauernwehr |
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| Sean Flynt wrote: | | At the moment I'm very interested in utilitarian messers of the hauswehr/bauernwehr type. One rarely sees reproductions but they're all over German artwork of the late 15th and early 16th centuries. |
The utilitarian nature of these side arms are what I find the most interesting. It is an every-day tool that peasants seem to carry for mundane tasks and it can be used to fight with in the event one is threatened. It is for this reason, I voted "OTHER." The Hauswehr, Bauernwehr is simply a jack-of-all-trades.
I very much like the handle design of the Baselard, which I thought about voting for, and I like the variety that exists in the Rondel dagger and the protection that the disks provide. The hand protection offered by the Rondel dagger puts it higher on my list than the Baselard. However, both of these lost my vote because of the utilitarian nature of the simple farmer's blade. It was designed for more than just killing.
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Chad Arnow
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Posted: Thu 11 Sep, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Here's another historical dagger of this form. It's dated to c. 1400 and is in London's Guildhall museum.
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