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Dan Tucker




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PostPosted: Fri 30 Apr, 2004 8:13 pm    Post subject: Two-handed and Bastard Swords with Katzbalger crossguards         Reply with quote

I've seen some contemporary depictions of two-handed swords and bastard swords with the figure-eight crossguards like those found on katzbalgers (Urs Graf's caricature of a landsknecht is one) yet I never hear them mentioned on forums or see any replicas of them, apart from a beautiful custom 'katzbalger bastard sword' on A&A's website. I find this style of guard quite attractive, even more so when combined with a beautiful blade and a hand-and-a-half hilt. I would greatly appreciate any opinions and information on, or even just pictures of, these interesting specimens.
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PostPosted: Fri 30 Apr, 2004 8:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Lutel has several at their site, Johann Schidburger used to make one that MRL sold, and Bjorn has a pic of one original on his site.
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PostPosted: Fri 30 Apr, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Two-handed and Bastard Swords with Katzbalger crossguard         Reply with quote

Dan Tucker wrote:
I've seen some contemporary depictions of two-handed swords and bastard swords with the figure-eight crossguards like those found on katzbalgers (Urs Graf's caricature of a landsknecht is one) yet I never hear them mentioned on forums or see any replicas of them, apart from a beautiful custom 'katzbalger bastard sword' on A&A's website. I find this style of guard quite attractive, even more so when combined with a beautiful blade and a hand-and-a-half hilt. I would greatly appreciate any opinions and information on, or even just pictures of, these interesting specimens.
Cheers
Dan


You're absolutely right, I honestly don't remeber them being mentioned, with the A&A exception.

I wonder if it would be period to use a XIII or XIIIa blade with a katzbalger-ish hilt, wielded sort of like an early Claymore...

Katzbalger hilt, XIII category... does a sword possibly GET more Germanic than that? Big Grin

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PostPosted: Sat 01 May, 2004 10:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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Dan Tucker




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PostPosted: Sat 01 May, 2004 11:18 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wow! Awesome pic Nathan Robinson. Something about those katzbalger guards just really does it for me. what Oakeshotte type might that middle sword be?
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PostPosted: Sat 01 May, 2004 4:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Check out some of the Lutels on this page:

http://www.lutel.cz/index2e.htm
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PostPosted: Sat 01 May, 2004 4:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Oops. That just linked to their opening page. Well, go to their Hans-and-a-Half page; there are sveral examples which might interest you.

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PostPosted: Sat 01 May, 2004 5:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I checked out Lutel's hand and a half page and I'm impressed. I'm not sure how much they cost because the prices are in Czech currency, but I certainly wouldn't mind getting one if I could scrape together some benjamins.
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PostPosted: Sat 01 May, 2004 10:31 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Although the arguement could possibly be made that it's a Type XVIIIa I would say it's probably a type XX, especially taking into account the late time period from which it came I think it's likely.
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PostPosted: Sun 09 May, 2004 7:49 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Dan Tucker wrote:
I checked out Lutel's hand and a half page and I'm impressed. I'm not sure how much they cost because the prices are in Czech currency, but I certainly wouldn't mind getting one if I could scrape together some benjamins.


Try going here for currency conversions http://www.xe.com/ucc/

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