Info Favorites Register Log in
myArmoury.com Discussion Forums

Forum index Memberlist Usergroups Spotlight Topics Search
Forum Index > Historical Arms Talk > A beautiful messer Reply to topic
This is a standard topic Go to page 1, 2  Next 
Author Message
Nathan Robinson
myArmoury Admin


myArmoury Admin

PostPosted: Sat 20 Jun, 2009 11:02 am    Post subject: A beautiful messer         Reply with quote

As some of you might know, I bought myself an Albion Soldat grosse messer during their 25% off sale they had awhile back.

I thought maybe I'd hold onto it for a bit and then sell it. The big sale would allow me to at least recoup my money. Once it arrived, I liked it so much, I decided I had to keep it. It's an absolutely fantastic piece and of a type that I've wanted for many years. Keeper all the way.

After selling a few things to justify the expense, I made up my mind that I wanted to have a scabbard made for it. It'll be a little while before I'm able to get that done, but in the meantime, I wanted to have a by-knife and pricker made that would fit in the messer's scabbard.

I commissioned the by-knife and pricker from Tod's Stuff. I only asked for the grips to made from walnut to be similar to the Soldat and for there to be integrated bolsters. Tod was quick to make them and once they arrived, I realized that even the smallest projects with him produce great results.

Shortly before he completed the by-knife and pricker, he posted some items for sale that he already had in stock. One of these was a bauernwehr / hauswehr. Being a fan of these types of knives, I snatched it up and asked Tod if he could stain the wood a bit darker to better fit with the Soldat kit I was putting together. He did one better and replaced the grip scales with the same walnut he used for the by-knife and pricker. The walnut scale grip construction, nagel, and single-edged blade are very reminiscent of the Soldat.

The result? It's now a set of knives that are very complimentary to each other. I have a scabbard already for the bauernwehr (not shown in the photos) and will be getting one made in the future for the Soldat and by-knife/pricker set. Together, these things are going to great! The idea will be not to have anything match, because that would look silly, but instead fit together in a cohesive way. I think it's well on its way to that goal already.

Shown here are the blades. Once everything is completed, I'll show the set again and will add everything to my Collection Gallery with full measurements and whatnot.

Thanks for looking.






Click images for full-sized photographs

.:. Visit my Collection Gallery :: View my Reading List :: View my Wish List :: See Pages I Like :: Find me on Facebook .:.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Chad Arnow
myArmoury Team


myArmoury Team

PostPosted: Sat 20 Jun, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That's a nice-looking set. Happy They go together well without looking like you tried to have them go together (if that makes sense). Happy
Happy

ChadA

http://chadarnow.com/
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
George P.





Joined: 14 Aug 2007

Posts: 25

PostPosted: Sat 20 Jun, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Truly magnificent. Cool I'm interested in seeing the scabbards as well.
View user's profile Send private message
Matthew G.M. Korenkiewicz




Location: Michigan, USA
Joined: 08 Mar 2004
Reading list: 3 books

Posts: 864

PostPosted: Sat 20 Jun, 2009 12:01 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Very nice stuff, NR ... It'll be interesting to see the scabbard done for your Soldat, as well
as how you fit the knives into things. Have you anyone in mind ???
View user's profile Send private message
M. Eversberg II




Location: California, Maryland, USA
Joined: 07 Sep 2006
Reading list: 3 books

Spotlight topics: 1
Posts: 1,435

PostPosted: Sat 20 Jun, 2009 12:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I'm seeing green! The soldat is one of my favorite Albion pieces (probably in 3rd place), and I've only seen two or three people actually show theirs off.

If you get a chance, certainly do a review for those four items, particularly the larger two knives (messer and hauswehr).

M.

This space for rent or lease.
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger ICQ Number
Bartek Strojek




Location: Poland
Joined: 05 Aug 2008
Likes: 23 pages

Posts: 496

PostPosted: Sat 20 Jun, 2009 12:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Glorious!

They look really medieval together !

PS. So Soldat's grip is available in different colours too? Yours is brown, on Albion site it's black, and there is no info about colours.
View user's profile Send private message
Nathan Robinson
myArmoury Admin


myArmoury Admin

PostPosted: Sat 20 Jun, 2009 12:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

This is the basic design for the scabbard.


 Attachment: 27.23 KB
messer_scabbard.jpg
Rough sketch of soldat with scabbard, by-knife, and pricker
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Nathan Robinson
myArmoury Admin


myArmoury Admin

PostPosted: Sat 20 Jun, 2009 12:34 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Bartek Strojek wrote:
PS. So Soldat's grip is available in different colours too? Yours is brown, on Albion site it's black, and there is no info about colours.


I wasn't given an option for grip colors. I believe it's always walnut. I suspect that the Albion photos are just very dark and don't give any shadow detail to see the walnut accurately. The grip slabs on mine have a lot of grain activity and contrast, however, compared to the ones on the Albion site. It was a pleasant surprise.

I like the look of "black", too, and would wonder what period-appropriate wood would give that effect.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Artis Aboltins




PostPosted: Sat 20 Jun, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It definitelly looks like a nice set you got there, can't wait to see how the scabbard will look like when done.
View user's profile Send private message
Olov Tidemalm





Joined: 11 Jul 2008

Posts: 56

PostPosted: Sat 20 Jun, 2009 1:05 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Holy mother of...!! O_O I have to get me one of those!!! Truly magnificent!
View user's profile Send private message
Danny Grigg





Joined: 17 Sep 2004

Spotlight topics: 2
Posts: 337

PostPosted: Sat 20 Jun, 2009 8:11 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan

Are you going to do a review on all 4 items?

If so any idea when it will be posted?

Danny
View user's profile Send private message
Nathan Robinson
myArmoury Admin


myArmoury Admin

PostPosted: Sat 20 Jun, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Danny Grigg wrote:
Are you going to do a review on all 4 items? If so any idea when it will be posted?


I'm sorry, but I don't write reviews. I haven't for years.
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Andrew Maxwell




Location: New Zealand
Joined: 03 May 2009

Posts: 90

PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun, 2009 3:22 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Nathan Robinson wrote:
Danny Grigg wrote:
Are you going to do a review on all 4 items? If so any idea when it will be posted?


I'm sorry, but I don't write reviews. I haven't for years.


So... when are you going to let someone else borrow it so they can write a review? Wink
View user's profile Send private message
Tim Lison




Location: Chicago, Illinois
Joined: 05 Aug 2004
Likes: 1 page
Reading list: 6 books

Spotlight topics: 1
Posts: 1,606

PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun, 2009 10:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Cool stuff Nathan. I have to say that when you get swords. knives, etc. you do it right! The "suite" that you will have created once you have the scabbard will be very, very nice. Looking forward to the pics!
View user's profile Send private message
Joe Fults




Location: Midwest
Joined: 02 Sep 2003

Posts: 3,646

PostPosted: Sun 21 Jun, 2009 12:40 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That's lovely so far...going to be neat to see the finished whole.
"The goal shouldn’t be to avoid being evil; it should be to actively do good." - Danah Boyd
View user's profile Send private message
Patrick Kelly




Location: Wichita, Kansas
Joined: 17 Aug 2003
Reading list: 42 books

Spotlight topics: 2
Posts: 5,739

PostPosted: Mon 22 Jun, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

That will be quite the ensemble when it's done. There's a lot of interesting variation in the pieces themselves but they fit together in a nice complementary way, there's a lot of interesting shapes and proportions going on there as well. It all reminds me of how much I'd like to add a messer to my collection.

Very cool.
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Sean Flynt




Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Joined: 21 Aug 2003
Likes: 10 pages
Reading list: 13 books

Spotlight topics: 7
Posts: 5,981

PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun, 2009 7:06 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Oh, what a collection! That Bauernwehr! The Messer! The by-knives! Couldn't get much better.

As for black scales--horn, maybe?

-Sean

Author of the Little Hammer novel

https://www.amazon.com/Little-Hammer-Sean-Flynt/dp/B08XN7HZ82/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=little+hammer+book&qid=1627482034&sr=8-1
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Christopher Gregg




Location: Louisville, KY
Joined: 14 Nov 2007
Reading list: 2 books

Posts: 675

PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun, 2009 7:25 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Oooooohhhhh!!! Super nice!!! Can't wait to see the finished project. Dammit, this is exactly what I want to have done. Frakkin' economy! Congratulations on what will be an awesome set, Nathan! Cool Cool Cool

Chris

Christopher Gregg

'S Rioghal Mo Dhream!
View user's profile Send private message
Sean Flynt




Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Joined: 21 Aug 2003
Likes: 10 pages
Reading list: 13 books

Spotlight topics: 7
Posts: 5,981

PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun, 2009 7:28 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

You need a "black" sallet, too.
-Sean

Author of the Little Hammer novel

https://www.amazon.com/Little-Hammer-Sean-Flynt/dp/B08XN7HZ82/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=little+hammer+book&qid=1627482034&sr=8-1
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Jean Henri Chandler




Location: New Orleans
Joined: 20 Nov 2006

Spotlight topics: 1
Posts: 1,420

PostPosted: Tue 23 Jun, 2009 11:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Those are really incredible together, I am seriously, seriously jealous. Congratulations.

That Albion messer actually scares me.

I want a hauswher so bad !

J

Books and games on Medieval Europe Codex Integrum

Codex Guide to the Medieval Baltic Now available in print
View user's profile Send private message


Display posts from previous:   
Forum Index > Historical Arms Talk > A beautiful messer
Page 1 of 2 Reply to topic
Go to page 1, 2  Next All times are GMT - 8 Hours

View previous topic :: View next topic
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum






All contents © Copyright 2003-2024 myArmoury.com — All rights reserved
Discussion forums powered by phpBB © The phpBB Group
Switch to the Basic Low-bandwidth Version of the forum