[Chad Arnow]

[Randall Moffett]

Text indicates that some helms of the late 1280s and on had visors.

RPM

[Michele Hansen]

[Felix R.]

These are my three helmets side by side:

[Scott Hrouda]

[Felix R.]

Thank you Scott.

From left to right:

1) The Houndskull Basinet was made by Jacek Matera of Poland. It is roughly based on the Milanese Basinet in the Wallace collection #69, the liner was made by Jiri Klepac and it has a 8mm solid-wedge riveted GDFB avantail

2) This is just a simple GDFB Kettlehat, that will maybe nead a sewn liner sometime in the future. For the low price it is quite ok. This is ment to be for a early 14th cent Infantry/militia kit.

3) The Basinet on the right was made by Jiri Klepac of Czech Republic. It is based off the Basinet #74 from the Wallace collection with a shovel visor as found in the Stibbert museum. This piece was raised from one sheet of steel. It has a handsewn liner and padded aventeil. The maille is 7mm round ring all riveted.

See pictures of the original for reference

[Michele Hansen]

[Bill Grandy]

[Chuck Russell]

not to my knowledge were they used in the Wars of the Roses. that is late 15thc England

[Randall Moffett]

I know of some bascinets appearing in commoners inventories in the 1460s (York. Archdios. Inventories) but could not tell you more than that. My guess is that such helmets lingered for some time but the cheapness of some simple helmets during the 15th must have made it easy and common to replace a hand-me-down with a newer model.

RPM

[Felix R.]

The two basinets are dated to the last quarter of the 14th cent. The Shovel visor in the Stibbert is dated 14th cent too. The Fresco from Palazzo Trinci should be early 15th cent or earlier. While the GDFB Kettlehat is described as of late 15th cent origin. You see it in the example of the first hallf of the 14th cent. already.

[Felix R.]

[J.D. Crawford]

Helm question:

I would like to put together a Gallowglass-style kit, like the sort pictured in grave slabs in Western Scotland and the Islands. I think I should get a Houndskull Basinet with integral coif/aventail (not sure what to call it). There's one like this pictured above from Poland - anything like this available in North America?

MRL/Windlass had one for a while, but the mail was attached in a way that made it bunch up.

Thanks, JD

PS - I don't think I want the visor (they aren't pictured in the grave slabs), so I may not be calling this by quite the right name.

PPS - this is the MRL one I was talking about:
http://www.maskworld.com/english/department/l...il--105070

[Felix R.]

[Michele Hansen]

Michele the Dunce Posted:

I love the Houndskull Basinet as Its profile looks admirably menacing. The Houndskull is early 15th C. Yes? I have seen it in War of the Roses imagery.

Bill Grandy Posted:

They exist into the early part of the 15th century, yes, though most people associate them more with the second half of the 14th century.

Chuck Russell Posted:

not to my knowledge were they used in the Wars of the Roses. that is late 15thc England

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Thanks for the lesson about that cool houndskull helm, Gentlemen: I did some research, and learned that the War of the Roses lasted from the 1450s until 1485, when Henry VII ascended the throne and eliminated both York and Lancaster from the competition.

I need some good images of mid/late13th C examples of the Great Helm. I'm working on an oil of a knight of that period. I want the helm to have the correct configuration and riveting. Any of you creators willing to grant me permission to copy your helm design? Thanks!

[Matthew Amt]

Some really nice helmets showing up, here! Have to post my latest one, a crested Villanovan helmet dating to the 8th century BC. "Villanovan" is basically the culture of Romulus and Remus, Late Bronze Age/Early Iron Age Italy.



So this is me in my Romulus impression! A number of helmets of this sort have been found, at least 2 of which have MUCH larger crests. These helmets are often referred to as "Etruscan", but they actually predate the era of Etruscan rule in Rome.

I made this helmet, as well as the "poncho" cuirass, from 18 gauge bronze sheet. It was a challenge! Enjoy,

Matthew

[T Franks]

That Villanovan set up is pretty neat Matthew! That's something you don't see too often

[Walter S]

Can anyone tell me from where is this picture shown in one of previous posts?

[Neil Langley]

[Chris Gilman]