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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep, 2004 6:38 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

here's a pic of the Falchion I mentioned earlier by Von Sussen Ent. in CT.

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep, 2004 7:56 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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I think you've got it! Any chance of a scan?

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Alas no. I'm pretty primitive on that end.

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PostPosted: Tue 14 Sep, 2004 9:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I may try to work this out in wood, using the drawing as far as possible and filling in the gaps with photos of extant originals. Thanks, everybody!
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Hey Sean,
Look what just turned up on the November Czerny's auction!
The catalog is online as of yesterday.

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PostPosted: Sun 31 Oct, 2004 9:52 am    Post subject: Interesting         Reply with quote

I wonder what happened to the rest of that blade before it was rehited?
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Nov, 2004 6:35 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Ooooh! Thanks for that! Funny...I was just thinking about this topic again because I read that famed director Terrence Malick (The Thin Red Line, Badlands) is shooting The New World in Virginia with Colin Ferril as John Smith. Maybe this time next year MRL will be featuring a line of late 16th/early 17th c. falchions, rapiers and basket hilts! Of course, I'm still saving my pennies for next summer ;-/
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Nov, 2004 6:54 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sean Flynt wrote:
Maybe this time next year MRL will be featuring a line of late 16th/early 17th c. falchions, rapiers and basket hilts! Of course, I'm still saving my pennies for next summer ;-/



This would be a most welcome turn around for MRL, indeed!


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PostPosted: Mon 01 Nov, 2004 7:17 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hey, Bill, I figured you for an extra since they were filming around Williamsburg! Have you heard anything about this production? Malick and Ferill are big-time.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Nov, 2004 7:30 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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Hey, Bill, I figured you for an extra since they were filming around Williamsburg! Have you heard anything about this production? Malick and Ferill are big-time.


Why yes I have. A casting call for extras from the Re-enactment noble guild the wife and I have been part of was put out in early spring. Would have been an interesting thing to do but, other commitments and finances (reality) quickly nip the thought in the bud.

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Nov, 2004 10:30 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's a still. I hope he doesn't carry that rapier through the whole picture. AMERICA NEEDS FALCHIONS!


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PostPosted: Mon 01 Nov, 2004 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Interesting         Reply with quote

Russ Mitchell wrote:
I wonder what happened to the rest of that blade before it was rehited?


took the words right out of my mouth... definitely wasn't a falchion to begin with..

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Nov, 2004 1:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sorry guys, but my wife saw the pic of Colin Ferril and had to throw this together. My apologies to all...

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Nov, 2004 1:51 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

What makes y'all doubt that this weapon was born a falchion? Looks much like other examples of the period, for example:


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PostPosted: Mon 01 Nov, 2004 1:52 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Funny Gordon: Someone else who has the "Power of Photoshop".........LOL
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Nov, 2004 1:58 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Oh, that's EXTRA funny! For all the bodice-ripping, Fabio style of this still, the picture actually promises to be pretty good with Malick at the helm. Christian Bale and Christopher Plummer star as well. The emphasis seems to be on Smith, Rolfe and Pocahantas.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Nov, 2004 2:14 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Here's another (second quarter of 17th c. ?) with that distinctive stepped back. Hilt fashions changed a bit, but this blade type seems to have survived from at least the late 16th c. through the mid-17th. Or, I suppose all these blades could be late 16th and just rehilted for many decades.


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PostPosted: Mon 01 Nov, 2004 2:20 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Gotta love that anglocentric scholarship... that "distinctive stepped back" only being one of the defining characteristics of one of the most common forms of eastern/east-central european sabre from, oh, the 9th century... that blade is your classic mid-to-late-fifteenth-century hungarian sabre blade, put on a more modern hilt.
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Russ Mitchell wrote:
Gotta love that anglocentric scholarship... that "distinctive stepped back" only being one of the defining characteristics of one of the most common forms of eastern/east-central european sabre from, oh, the 9th century... that blade is your classic mid-to-late-fifteenth-century hungarian sabre blade, put on a more modern hilt.


The clipped back-edge is found on many later-period Western Euro blades and is a particularly common feature on the falchion. While it would be an interesting study to trace influence and evolution of such blades, there is no doubt that many of these types of swords have blades that are contemporary with their hilts.

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PostPosted: Mon 01 Nov, 2004 5:09 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Sean,
More eye candy for ya' from Harold L. Peterson's book - "Arms and Armour in Colonial America 1526-1783"

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PostPosted: Tue 02 Nov, 2004 6:45 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

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The clipped back-edge is found on many later-period Western Euro blades and is a particularly common feature on the falchion. While it would be an interesting study to trace influence and evolution of such blades, there is no doubt that many of these types of swords have blades that are contemporary with their hilts.


Maybe. I'm sure there are a couple that actually belong together originally... but I suspect they're a lot fewer than people guess. Those people mixed and matched blades and hilts like we mix vests and sweaters.

What I would love to see is a vocabulary that makes sense. Why said blade is a falchion, rather than a sabre, totally mystifies me. Except, of course, that it's *obviously* too early to be a real sabre... WTF?! Anyway, like I said, with Smith's background, it makes perfect sense for him to have carried a sabre or falchion or whatever you want to call it... he definitely knew what he was doing with one.

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