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Thomas McDonald
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| Patrick Kelly wrote: | Mac,
Can you tell me anything about that piece of mail in the close-up photo? Do you know if it's original or of modern manufacture? |
HI Patrick
That shot is a closeup of an original, circa 14th century, maille hood that is in the Royal Museum's collection, Edinburgh.
Here is its description card, as well as a shot of the whole hood !
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Chuck Russell
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that troubles me. a full coif under a helm in 14thc? hmmm kettle maybe. hmmmm looks way new  prob there person to ask is eric schmid (sp?) he's on another board, i can try to find u an email address.
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Russ Ellis
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Wow! It's like a national geographic special! Thanks for sharing your trip with us Mac. The pictures are excellent. I watched Kidnapped on PBS this weekend and now this... I'm beginning to regret selling that baskethilt...
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Patrick Kelly
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| Posted: Tue 08 Nov, 2005 9:45 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Mac,
I ask because this looks very much like the mail I've been working on. If it is original that would be somewhat gratifying on a personal level. 
Chuck,
Don't read too much into the museum write-up. I found that those things have a 60-40 percent chance of being wrong. Afterall, it does say nothing is known about the piece and then dates it to the 14th century. Besides, it doesn't say what kind of helm it would have been worn with. It does look awfully new though. I do have Eric Scmid's e-mail.
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Ben Sweet
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Thanks Mac on the excellent photos and all the work it takes to post them  What a trip that must have been 
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Thomas McDonald
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| Posted: Tue 08 Nov, 2005 3:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Russ Ellis wrote: | Wow! It's like a national geographic special! Thanks for sharing your trip with us Mac.
The pictures are excellent. I watched Kidnapped on PBS this weekend and now this... I'm beginning to regret selling that baskethilt... |
Hi Russ
Aye, a good lad like yourself should always have at least one fine claymore in the house, if only for those occasional Rob Roy showings, or good shows like Kidnapped ( I've been watching it too ;-) They sure get the blood a flowing !
Slap on a Corries tape, chased with an Alastair MacDonald tune, and they'll be no claymores to be had in any Marketplace !
Thanks, Russ .... Cheers, Mac
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Thomas McDonald
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| Ben Sweet wrote: | | Thanks Mac on the excellent photos and all the work it takes to post them What a trip that must have been |
Hiya Ben .... long time no talk, my friend !
Thank you .... It is a tad overwhelming dealing with so many photos after such a great trip !
Trying to get them organized, edited, cropped & resized, and figure out what I can & can't post, etc., can be rather time consuming ! The hardest part, at least for me, is not being able to show you guys some of the amazing behind the scenes shots ..... I've got some truly amazing detailed images of so many special pieces, as well as ones of Vince & Grace researching away, that I could fill a book !
Although I'm putting all these up in kind of a rushed presentation (as that is all I have the energy to do at present) I figure they are still worthy enough to be of benefit to you guys ! Eventually I'll get them into the albums here and give them their proper decriptions, etc!
Mac
* Some more great pieces from the Burrell Collection .....
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Thomas McDonald
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Here are some shots of that nice Stirling basket hilt at the Edinburgh Museum, on the Royal Mile !
It's descrpition card reads :
Sword
Mid 18th century
This is a basket-hilted back-sword with one cutting edge. The inscription, probably added in the 19th century, claims that the owner was Oliver Cromwell who lived in the century before the sword was made.
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Steve Grisetti
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| Russ Ellis wrote: | | ... I'm beginning to regret selling that baskethilt... |
Can't have it back! It likes its new home
"...dismount thy tuck, be yare in thy preparation, for thy assailant is quick, skilful, and deadly."
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Thomas McDonald
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| Steve Grisetti wrote: | | Russ Ellis wrote: | | ... I'm beginning to regret selling that baskethilt... |
Can't have it back! It likes its new home |
Ah, so Steve is the man that took advantage of Russ's confusion ;-)
I almost got to see your sword, back at the '04 Atlanta show, but Russ showed up just as I was running to catch my taxi and I missed the opportunity ! (at least I got to shake Russ's hand :-)
Russ did a review on that one as I recall ..... it has a hilt that was based on a regimental pattern !
Mac
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Thomas McDonald
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Two Lochaber axe at Edinburgh Castles Great Hall !
- Mac
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Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom
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Nice pics Mac! 
Here are something for you, very rare they say, from 1616
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Thomas McDonald
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Thanks, Patrik .... interesting indeed !
Earlier in this thread I'd mentioned that when we arrived at the Culloden Visitors Center that Vince & Grace had got to have a look see at a baskethilt & dirk that they had donated to the Trust, back in 2003, for educational purposes !
The National Trust has been using these pieces for live demonstrations as well allowing the kids a chance to get to handle something that is in keeping with their original counterparts, save the sharp edges !
The Evans were very curious to see what the effects of all this use had done to them over the course of 2 years !
Targemaker Joe Lindsay, of North Kessock, was also kind enough to donate a targe to the center for the same purposes, as everyone figured .... "we now have a sword & dirk, guess we need a targe, so we can do this right" :-)
All the pieces seemed to be holding up extremely well !
We also got to meet Duncan, the gentleman who does all the sword bashing & reenactment stuff, and he was quite thrilled to have these pieces available, and commented how excellent they truly are !
Here are a few shots from our backroom visit to see them, with Ms. Smith leading the way !
Also included is a shot of the targe Joe made for the center, as well as a shot of his beautiful Drumossie targaid !
The Drummossie targe, based upon an original in the collection there, is only sold at the center !
(kind of a special deal they worked out for the Trust's gift shop).
2nd to last shot is of the pending construction plans that will totally redo the whole site, and actually adjust certain aspects of the battlefield to make it even closer to they way it was back in the day !
- Mac
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Thomas McDonald
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Some detail shots of LA 89, a two-handed claymore residing at the Museum of Scotland, Edinburgh.
(including a few of its scabbard) -- Mac
LA 89 - First half of the 16th century -- Pommel is of wheel type, hollow, and made in 3 sections brazed together. It can be assumed that claymores with this kind of pommel are earlier than those with ball or truncated cone pommels. The grip, with its steel bands at the top & bottom, is a modern replacement, and somewhat detracts from the basic elegance of this sword. It still retains its sheath. Length overall - 53 1/2", Blade - 40 1/4". -- Text, plate # 6, 'Scottish Swords & Dirks', by John Wallace (1970).
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Steve Grisetti
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| Posted: Sun 13 Nov, 2005 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Thomas McDonald wrote: | | Steve Grisetti wrote: | | Russ Ellis wrote: | | ... I'm beginning to regret selling that baskethilt... |
Can't have it back! It likes its new home |
Ah, so Steve is the man that took advantage of Russ's confusion ;-)
I almost got to see your sword, back at the '04 Atlanta show, but Russ showed up just as I was running to catch my taxi and I missed the opportunity ! (at least I got to shake Russ's hand :-)
Russ did a review on that one as I recall ..... it has a hilt that was based on a regimental pattern !
Mac |
Yup. From Rob Miller at Castle Keep. In fact, here is a photo that Russ provided:
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Douglas G.
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Dear Pat,
When I looked for traces of my MacDaniel forbears whilst touring Culloden Field, I didn't
'ken the auld lads. Later, on the Whiskey Trail I will admit to the presence of spirits.
That last bad aside, I did get some chills whilst visiting a Church Yard where Border
Reiver ancestors were buried.
Scotland the Brave!
Douglas Gentner
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Douglas G.
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Huge Skip!
All apologies "Mac"
Doug
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Thomas McDonald
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A closer look at LNA 40, residing at the Museum of Scotland, Edinburgh.
11. Basket-hilted broadsword with the arms of Sir John Grant of Freuchie and the date 1562 on the blade.
The decoration on the blade is Scottish, while the hilt is English, both probably dating from the early 17th century.
H. LNA 40.
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Thomas McDonald
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Pieces at the Museum of Scotland ,& The Royal Museum, Edinburgh .
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Thomas McDonald
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Two skians found at Bannockburn. - The Smith Gallery, Stirling.
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