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Craig Peters




PostPosted: Sat 04 Feb, 2006 1:47 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It's grip seems to be quite similar to the Viceroy. I like the cross that's been inscribed in the blade too. Is it just me, or does the guard appear to be smaller in this photo than in the other?
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PostPosted: Tue 02 May, 2006 1:59 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi, recently got my hands on a exact replica of this sword done by Patrick Bárta and itīs totaly amazing! But i was wondering if any of you have a little more background of the history of this sword?

Thanks/ Mathias
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Craig Peters




PostPosted: Tue 02 May, 2006 6:28 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mathias,

Would you mind posting photos of the sword online?
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PostPosted: Tue 02 May, 2006 7:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Craig Peters wrote:
Mathias,

Would you mind posting photos of the sword online?


I second that request.
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PostPosted: Tue 02 May, 2006 8:26 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mathias Andersson wrote:
Hi, recently got my hands on a exact replica of this sword done by Patrick Bárta and itīs totaly amazing! But i was wondering if any of you have a little more background of the history of this sword?

Thanks/ Mathias


Congradulations! I would love to see pictures as well. Sorry, I can't help with any info on that sword.

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Mathias Andersson




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PostPosted: Wed 03 May, 2006 11:24 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I will try to post pics when i get some good ones Happy Do anybody know where the original sword was manufactured? Was it in Germany? If not, where?

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PostPosted: Wed 03 May, 2006 1:54 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mathias Andersson wrote:
I will try to post pics when i get some good ones Happy Do anybody know where the original sword was manufactured? Was it in Germany? If not, where?

Thanks/ Mathias


It was most likely made in Germany. I've read that this cross-stamp appeared on another blade which also featured the running wolf of Passau. So maybe it was a bladesmith's personal stamp in addition to the Passau-stamp so the customer would know who actually made this piece in addition to the fact that it was made in Passau. However, take this with a grain of salt since I can't confirm this.
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PostPosted: Thu 04 May, 2006 10:40 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi, I finally got some good pics Happy
http://www.familjeliv.se/krypin/maggizz/gallery/phpc3r61x.jpg

http://www.familjeliv.se/krypin/maggizz/gallery/php4p5tdg.jpg

http://www.familjeliv.se/krypin/maggizz/gallery/phphj4xrz.jpg

http://www.familjeliv.se/krypin/maggizz/gallery/php7pnaj1.jpg

http://www.familjeliv.se/krypin/maggizz/gallery/phph1cik5.jpg

Itīs a marvel to handle and when i feel ready to do it right i will try to write a rewiev of it, but that will be some time in the future.
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PostPosted: Thu 04 May, 2006 11:07 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mathias Andersson wrote:
Hi, I finally got some good pics Happy
http://www.familjeliv.se/krypin/maggizz/gallery/phpc3r61x.jpg

http://www.familjeliv.se/krypin/maggizz/gallery/php4p5tdg.jpg

http://www.familjeliv.se/krypin/maggizz/gallery/phphj4xrz.jpg

http://www.familjeliv.se/krypin/maggizz/gallery/php7pnaj1.jpg

http://www.familjeliv.se/krypin/maggizz/gallery/phph1cik5.jpg

Itīs a marvel to handle and when i feel ready to do it right i will try to write a rewiev of it, but that will be some time in the future.


VERY nice... and you got it at a ridiculously low price too. Congratulations!
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PostPosted: Thu 04 May, 2006 11:56 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks Happy Iīm sending it away this sundayto get a historical right scabbard, will post pics of that to when i get it.
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PostPosted: Thu 04 May, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

He even recreated the stampson the blade Eek!
At least we know now that a certain Emanuel Sotter made the original blade.
A very nice piece!
Maybe it's just the lightning but the original blade seems to have a much more acute point than this one.
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Craig Peters




PostPosted: Thu 04 May, 2006 7:17 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Wolfgang Armbruster wrote:

Maybe it's just the lightning but the original blade seems to have a much more acute point than this one.


Mathias,

It is a very nice replica, especially with the stamps that are included. I noticed however that you wrote that Patrick created an exact replica, so I'm wondering why he didn't include the triple fuller at the ricasso? To me, this provides a large amount of the sword's character, not to mention it would significantly affect how the weapon feels in hand.
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PostPosted: Fri 05 May, 2006 4:53 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I donīt know, itīs kinda hard to se on the pics, when i se the sword here besides me, it looks more like the pics of the original, itīs hard to describe. But i didnīt order the replica, i bought it second hand, so i could be wrong...
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Mathias Andersson wrote:
I donīt know, itīs kinda hard to se on the pics, when i se the sword here besides me, it looks more like the pics of the original, itīs hard to describe. But i didnīt order the replica, i bought it second hand, so i could be wrong...


Though it doesn't appear to be an exact copy it's still a beautiful sword and you definately got your money's worth. Congratulations! I love the XXa1 that it's based on and would be proud to own this replica. Enjoy it for what it is.
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PostPosted: Fri 05 May, 2006 6:14 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Jason Elrod wrote:

Though it doesn't appear to be an exact copy it's still a beautiful sword and you definately got your money's worth. Congratulations! I love the XXa1 that it's based on and would be proud to own this replica. Enjoy it for what it is.


Ditto that. Like I said before you got that thing at a steal, I'm pretty confident that even if you could manage to get an order with Mr. Barta today it would not be at that price point. If you ever want to unload that thing let me... er us... know.. Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 15 May, 2006 11:14 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Hi, i could use some help from all of you guys. I have been thinking about getting a rondel that would complement this sword, but i havenīt found any good historical examples. So, my question to all of you: Do anyone have a picture of a rondel from about the same timeperiod that you think would complement it?

Best wishes/ Mathias
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PostPosted: Mon 15 May, 2006 11:23 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mathias Andersson wrote:
Hi, i could use some help from all of you guys. I have been thinking about getting a rondel that would complement this sword, but i havenīt found any good historical examples. So, my question to all of you: Do anyone have a picture of a rondel from about the same timeperiod that you think would complement it?

Best wishes/ Mathias


Odd that should come up just now... Well according to the reading I've done your sword would probably fall somewhere in the 15th century (probably earlier rather then later) and as such a rondel with equally sized metal rondels and either a single or double edged blade should do the trick. Arms and Armor makes a nice one, as does the guy at Tod's stuff a la the one I just posted over in my thread about my latest acquisition although mine might be from a slightly later period I'm not sure... Not an expert on rondel daggers by any means just what I've picked up to date.

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PostPosted: Mon 15 May, 2006 11:27 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Thanks for the answer. I have been looking at the one from A&A, but i have decided to go with a custom piece to match the sword as nice as possibly:) So now iīm looking for good pics of historical ones that would do or if anyone of you are good at designing and feels to help me out Wink
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Mathias Andersson wrote:
Thanks for the answer. I have been looking at the one from A&A, but i have decided to go with a custom piece to match the sword as nice as possibly:) So now iīm looking for good pics of historical ones that would do or if anyone of you are good at designing and feels to help me out Wink


In that case I would DEFINITELY talk to Tod at Tod's stuff. His stuff is all custom one off and I suspect that he already has research material at his disposal. Did you see the one I posted in the other thread?



http://www.todsstuff.co.uk/html/rondels.php

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PostPosted: Mon 15 May, 2006 3:29 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Mathias Andersson wrote:
Hi, i could use some help from all of you guys. I have been thinking about getting a rondel that would complement this sword, but i havenīt found any good historical examples. So, my question to all of you: Do anyone have a picture of a rondel from about the same timeperiod that you think would complement it?

Best wishes/ Mathias


Mathias,
Alexi Goranov's article Spotlight: The Rondel Dagger
shows many historic examples.

Happy

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