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Tom Enos
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 Posted: Fri 23 Feb, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: alcazar armour |
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 does anyone know if the gothic suits of armour in alcazar castle original? i was told by a collector i know that they are replicas, if so does any one know who made them? i think they are some of the nicest gothic suits i have seen.
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Bruno Giordan
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| Posted: Fri 23 Feb, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: Re: alcazar armour |
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| Tom Enos wrote: | | does anyone know if the gothic suits of armour in alcazar castle original? i was told by a collector i know that they are replicas, if so does any one know who made them? i think they are some of the nicest gothic suits i have seen. |
You mean the Alcazar that was the seat of a famous spanish civil war battle?
At the end of it it was more or less a pile of rubble.
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Tom Enos
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Here are some images of the suits of armour I was asking about! Thank you in advance for any information!
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Chad Arnow
myArmoury Team
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I'm no expert, but it looks like a replica. It's probably still an antique, but not from the 15th century. To me it just looks like someone trying very hard to replicate a style while missing much of the grace and elegance of the originals.
Of course, this is all just my gut feeling and based on nothing more than opinion and a little observation. 
ChadA
http://chadarnow.com/
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Torsten F.H. Wilke
Location: Irvine Spectrum, CA Joined: 01 Jul 2006
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I would agree with Chad. There are definately a few contradictory issues in this harness, period features of various parts just don't match up. On the other hand, I would have to say that the workmanship, aside from some basic form issues, is scary good... (I hope you like my choice of words there)
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James Arlen Gillaspie
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In the 19th c. there was a fire in the Alcazar, and most of the armours were put in afterward, with a little real 16th c. stuff. Most of them were made by Winkelmeyer of Vienna, one of the most collectible of the Victorian armour-like sculpture makers. There's one on the Peter Finer website. Winkelmeyer also made the suit de Souzy was claiming belonged to Joan of Arc.
jamesarlen.com
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