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Brandon Minton
Location: Indianapolis, IN Joined: 13 Feb 2006
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If I was my girl, I'd go for Hugh's suggestion and get the Serenassima and get a scabbard from Tritonworks as I don't one could really logically argue that you don't have a fantastic wearable thruster get-up and it be perfect for a guy like Inigo Montoya (she's a big fan of that guy in the Princess Bride). Thanks for all the great suggestions thus far. I'll throw the ideas out to her and see what she thinks and report the results for fun.
I find it odd though that not one popular maker comes out of any famous sword-making region in Spain. Wall-hangers do not count in my book.
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James Martin
Location: Hutto, TX Joined: 12 Jul 2006
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| Leonardo Daneluz wrote: | There are a few custom swordsmiths in Spain. Germán Azote is one of them. He is in Valencia and can be contacted in the forum of the AEEA www.esgrimaantigua.com
He has a website but I couldn´t find it. |
I just noticed this post. Thank you for including it. God willing I may be able to contact him one day with a request for a custom sword. I think I am going to have to learn Spanish if I want to get any deeper into my family's history. In the meantime Ill just subscribe to this thread.
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Hugh Fuller
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| Leonardo Daneluz wrote: | There are a few custom swordsmiths in Spain. Germán Azote is one of them. He is in Valencia and can be contacted in the forum of the AEEA www.esgrimaantigua.com
He has a website but I couldn´t find it. |
I liked the "Unidos por la Espada" bit on the right side. Perhaps the sala ought to go over to the Barcelona Grand Prix Racing Circuit and have a bit of discussion with some of the Fernando Alonso fans there about their racist baiting of McLaren's Lewis Hamilton.
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/2/7326.html
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2008/2/7324.html
The fans were really pretty awful and the FIA has threatened to suspend Spain from the F-1 Championship Circuit if they don't get control over them. Perhaps sending a bunch of guys with swords over as security would get the point across. 
Hugh
Still trying to walk in the Light
Please see 1 John 1:5
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Bob Burns
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I did not make it to Kult of Athena today, however I am going there absolutely for sure on Wednesday 02/06/2008! LOL
I will check out the sword that Sean suggested, I checked it out before and as I remember it had a real nice feel to it.
I am going for the purpose for Ryan (Owner of Kult of Athena) to closely examine and scrutinize the grinding, sharpening and finishing job that I did on the Del Tin Sword.
Anyone and everyone, I personally invite you to call or write Ryan and ask him his unbiased opinion on the job that I did.
I will post this in the Thread "Putting Life into a Sword Blade" where it belongs.
Just wanted to state the reason that I am going to KoA tomorrow and in case anyone else wants me to check something out for them, please feel free to send me an instant message and I will check my messages before I leave for
Kult of Athena tomorrow.
It's no imposition at all, glad to help! 
Bob
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Bob Burns
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The Windlass Spanish Sword is One Heavy Sword! In my opinion it's way too heavy!
Bob
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Gary A. Chelette
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| Bob Burns wrote: | The Windlass Spanish Sword is One Heavy Sword! In my opinion it's way too heavy!
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Thanks Bob, That's what I wanted to know.
BTW: When are you going to sell me that Del Tin Viking sword?   
Are you scared, Connor?
No, Cousin Dugal. I'm not!
Don't talk nonsense, man. I peed my kilt the first time I went into battle.
Oh, aye. Angus pees his kilt all the time!
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Jean Thibodeau
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| Gary A. Chelette wrote: | | Bob Burns wrote: | The Windlass Spanish Sword is One Heavy Sword! In my opinion it's way too heavy!
Bob |
Thanks Bob, That's what I wanted to know.
BTW: When are you going to sell me that Del Tin Viking sword? |
Or lighten the Windlass Spanish sword so somebody like Gary might actually want to buy it. 
Probably would have to take the financial risk of buying it yourself for resale: It would be " risky to work on someone elses sword at least for now ! If you do enough of these " tuning jobs " you might feel confident working on a " client's " sword.
Well, a replaceable sword might cost you if you botched a job but not be tragic: You could always replace it in that case.
( Hmmmmmm ...... I keep trying to make you start your own sword improvement business. )
You can easily give up your freedom. You have to fight hard to get it back!
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G Ezell
Industry Professional
Location: North Alabama Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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| Peter Bosman wrote: | Since we are off-topic now anyway: the steel giant Rio Tinto is originally the english comoany founded to exploit the iron ore in the Rio Tinto area in sw andalucia, spain. The Rio Tinto is indeed a red river, coloured deep red by the iron oxide seeping from the country side.
Currently spain has no producers of decent swords nor iron.
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If someone who had experience with making crucible steel could obtain a decent quantity of this ore, one could have a sword made from roughly the same steel. It wouldn't be cheap...
That's about as close as you could get, I would think.
I have wondered if the fame of the steel came from the way it was produced/worked, or the alloy content of the local ore.
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J. Wilby
Location: Mississauga, Ontario Joined: 02 Apr 2007
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| G.Alan Beck wrote: | | Try:swordsfromtoledo.com-they are located in Toledo Spain & have a line of battle ready swords as well as wall hangers.Their contact info.is there as well.Good luck. |
Here is another one http://www.marianozamorano.com/english/Empresa.htm
At one point their rapier blades were considered good. Maybe others have some experience with them...
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James Martin
Location: Hutto, TX Joined: 12 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Thu 07 Feb, 2008 9:28 am Post subject: Re: Spanish Steel |
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| J. Wilby wrote: | | G.Alan Beck wrote: | | Try:swordsfromtoledo.com-they are located in Toledo Spain & have a line of battle ready swords as well as wall hangers.Their contact info.is there as well.Good luck. |
Here is another one http://www.marianozamorano.com/english/Empresa.htm
At one point their rapier blades were considered good. Maybe others have some experience with them... |
I would love to hear from people about these zamorano swords. They look very pretty. Are they functional swords or just wall hangers?
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Luka Borscak
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They are carbon steel but who knows how the tangs look and how well they are heat treated... They look like wallhangers from Marto but they don't have to be...
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Allen Reed
Location: Northwest, IL Joined: 19 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Thu 07 Feb, 2008 12:46 pm Post subject: Rapier from Darkwood Armoury? |
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Scott at Darkwood does a really nice Spanish cup hilt rapier with piercings thru the cup.
He also will sharpen blades if that is what you want as well.
Allen
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J. Wilby
Location: Mississauga, Ontario Joined: 02 Apr 2007
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| Luka Borscak wrote: | | They are carbon steel but who knows how the tangs look and how well they are heat treated... They look like wallhangers from Marto but they don't have to be... |
I can't really add much real data, but apparently they make some of the better practice rapier blades. Here is some feedback on those. Now - I ASSUME that they won't use anything worse on their own products - but we all know about assumptions......
http://www.therotunda.net/rapier/survey-1/q11-zamorano.shtml
I got this from a quick google on "zamorano blade".
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Oscar Torres Carrasco
Location: Madrid, Spain Joined: 07 Nov 2006
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Hi, everybody!
Mi name is Oscar Torres, and I am hte first provost of the Spanish Association of ancient fencing (AEEA). You can find the link to our page above, in the post of our friend Leonardo Daneluz.
Our school was founded in 2001 and, until our aparition, the production of spanish blades were only limited to the "wallhangers". Thanks to the impulse gave to the ancient fencing in our country, you can find now some Spanish swordsmiths who makes completely functional swords with very affordable prices. Their swords are completely designed for WMA, but they can make custom works too.
Please, read it: Mariano Zamorano makes artisan swords but they are not suitable to the practice of WMA. They are very robust swords, but only suitable for a wall.
You can find three principal sworsmiths in Spain who makes functional swords: Germán Gregorio Azote ( http://www.thetimeseller.com/spa/subcategory/1/SF059.html ) from Valencia, specialized in hand and a half swords, in the link you can find only two models, but he accept every custom work that you want.
The second is Juan Antonio Suárez, from MAdrid ( www.cueroyacero.com ), specialized in rapiers, specially with swept and cup hilts. He makes daggers and medieval swords with Toledo blades too, but in this example of medieval swords, I reccomend yoy the swords of Germán better.
The third one is Julio Ramírez, from Toledo, as known as "Mimes de Azzaria" ( http://www.mimesdeazzaria.es/ ). He is specialized in rapiers with cup and shell hilts and left-hand daggers. He accepts custom works too.
These three examples are very recent swordsmiths and they are not good-known out of Spain, I am sure about everyone of them can satisfy your exigences about your desire of finding a real Spanish sword.
Only one thing more: If you decide contact with one of them, you can tell him that you contact following my advise.
Best regards.
Oscar Torres
Asociación Española de Esgrima Antigua
Españoles en la mar quiero, y si es en tierra, San Jorge nos proteja (proverbio inglés)
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Russ Ellis
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The first one appears to be a reseller of items from Windlass Steelcrafts, Pavel Moc etc.
The second two do appear to fit the bill for what our seeker of Spanish Steel is looking for however although I have to admit to not being able to piece together the Spanish to be sure.
TRITONWORKS Custom Scabbards
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James Martin
Location: Hutto, TX Joined: 12 Jul 2006
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Oscar Torres thank you very much for contributing! You have really made my day.
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Leonardo Daneluz
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina Joined: 03 Nov 2003
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Thetimeseller is the reseller. They also deal with several models from Germán Azote. You can recognize them because those swords bear his mark (something like an I encircled with a F and D at the sides).
Oscar has accurately linked you to them.
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Peter Bosman
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| Russ Ellis wrote: | | The second two do appear to fit the bill for what our seeker of Spanish Steel is looking for |
The ' Alatriste' set by Julio Ramirez is about as spanish as it gets. Pack it with the DVD and it is the #1. VERY sharply priced too!
peter
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