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Bill Grandy
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Posted: Sat 27 Nov, 2004 10:41 am Post subject: A Swedish Pappenheimer |
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http://www.armemuseum.org/foremal/blankvapen/varja/1620-50.html
I thought this was pretty sweet. Something interesting is the thumb "ring": You can see that the plate actually curves down to the grip so that the thumb can go around. The blade profile is pretty cool, too. It's the type of profile you see done on many LOTR inspired fantasy swords as of late.
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Lee O'Hagan
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Posted: Sat 27 Nov, 2004 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Very nice,
First thought was the blade looks like something that might come out of Jody Samsons workshop,
Cheers for sharing the link Bill,
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William Goodwin

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Posted: Sat 27 Nov, 2004 11:33 am Post subject: |
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That is one heck of a blade fitted up to the hilt.....ooweeee....
Bill
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Nathan Robinson
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Björn Hellqvist
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Posted: Sat 27 Nov, 2004 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Fästet är från omkring 1620 men klingan är yngre och daterad 1652 samt försedd med bl.a. Gustav II Adolfs porträtt och tillverkad i Solingen. |
A quick translation of the text: "The hilt is from c. 1620, but the blade is younger, dated 1652 and provided with among other things a portrait of Gustavus Adolphus. [The blade] is made in Solingen.
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Bill Grandy
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Posted: Sat 27 Nov, 2004 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the translation, Björn. The connection to Gustavus Adolphus is interesting, as is knowing the dates of the hilt and sword.
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Eric Myers
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Posted: Mon 29 Nov, 2004 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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I want that sword!
I love the handling that a thumbring provides. In my experience, fingering a ricasso weakens the strength of your cut, while a thumbring increases it. I would LOVE to try cutting with a wide hollow ground blade like that mounted with a thumbring!
The whole sword is just beautiful all over ......
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Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom

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Posted: Mon 29 Nov, 2004 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom wrote: | There are more on that site, enjoy |
SMALLSWORDS!!!
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Björn Hellqvist
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Posted: Mon 29 Nov, 2004 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Joel Chesser wrote: | | Patrik Erik Lars Lindblom wrote: | There are more on that site, enjoy |
SMALLSWORDS!!!  |
Actually, many of the swords are pretty stout, especially those from the decades around 1700 AD. Albion has plans for making one of those models.
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Mikael Åkerman
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| Very long since this topic was up..But.. Björn, please tell me that they are thinking about the M/1701? Loooove that one!
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Gordon Frye

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Sean Flynt
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I'll dissent here and say that I'd rather see Albion reproduce one of the plain infantry swords of the period. There aren't enough accurate reproductions of those weapons around (A&A's Town Gaurd Sword is the only one that comes to mind, and it's actually kind of complex, hilt-wise), and to have one in the $400-600 range could do wonders for popular appreciation of this period's arms. On the other hand, if Albion reproduces one of the finer examples of these weapons--say, for their Museum Line--only the most well-heeled collectors will get to enjoy it!
I'm not talking about the truly sloppy swords of the day, but something like this:
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Lars Ekströmer

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Posted: Thu 09 Jun, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject: Re: A Swedish Pappenheimer |
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| Bill Grandy wrote: | http://www.armemuseum.org/foremal/blankvapen/varja/1620-50.html
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Thanks for the link!
I missed that one when I visited the Armemuseum. Probably because of hundreds of other interesting blade weapons... That design gives me some ideas for a custom project, maybe some sort of reproduction of that particular sword.
If any of you visit Stockholm I highly recommend a visit to Armemuseum to look at the collections. Every weapon ever used by the Swedish army is represented and more. Anyone interested in european warfare won't be disappointed.
/Lars
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Steve Grisetti

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Posted: Fri 10 Jun, 2005 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Sean Flynt wrote: | | I'll dissent here and say that I'd rather see Albion reproduce one of the plain infantry swords of the period...I'm not talking about the truly sloppy swords of the day, but something like this: |
I agree. That is a very attractive piece, Sean.
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Gordon Frye

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Posted: Fri 10 Jun, 2005 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Steve Grisetti wrote: | | Sean Flynt wrote: | | I'll dissent here and say that I'd rather see Albion reproduce one of the plain infantry swords of the period...I'm not talking about the truly sloppy swords of the day, but something like this: |
I agree. That is a very attractive piece, Sean. |
Indeed, it's too bad that MRL dropped their Scottish cross-guarded broadsword (can't recall their name for it off hand, but I do believe they dropped it form their line-up). However, I note that Sean already HAS one of those, LOL! I have to admit to rather liking those plain-jane but immenently serviceable pieces like that.
Cheers,
Gordon
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Steve Grisetti

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Posted: Fri 10 Jun, 2005 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Gordon Frye wrote: | | Indeed, it's too bad that MRL dropped their Scottish cross-guarded broadsword (can't recall their name for it off hand, but I do believe they dropped it form their line-up). However, I note that Sean already HAS one of those.... |
Scottish Backsword?http://www.myArmoury.com/review_mrl_scot.html
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Gordon Frye

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Posted: Fri 10 Jun, 2005 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Steve Grisetti wrote: | | Gordon Frye wrote: | | Indeed, it's too bad that MRL dropped their Scottish cross-guarded broadsword (can't recall their name for it off hand, but I do believe they dropped it form their line-up). However, I note that Sean already HAS one of those.... |
Scottish Backsword?http://www.myArmoury.com/review_mrl_scot.html |
That would be the one... plain and serviceable.
Gordon
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