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Allen Johnson
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Posted: Fri 15 Jul, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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GEEZ! That's stunning! Congrats!
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James Holczer
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Posted: Fri 15 Jul, 2005 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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That is incredible. Erickison’s work never ceases to amaze.
Congratulations
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Thomas Hoogendam
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Posted: Sat 16 Jul, 2005 2:41 am Post subject: |
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That is absolutely stunning!!! Eljay's work just keeps amazing me. Magnifecint sword!
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William Goodwin
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Posted: Sat 16 Jul, 2005 4:13 am Post subject: |
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Mac,
Is this the same basket I had the pleasure of seeing in progress, up close & personal, "last year" when meeting Eljay here in Va.?
If so, then even more Wow.
Bill
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Thomas McDonald
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Posted: Sat 16 Jul, 2005 4:28 am Post subject: |
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William Goodwin wrote: | Mac,
Is this the same basket I had the pleasure of seeing in progress, up close & personal, "last year" when meeting Eljay here in Va.? If so, then even more Wow. Bill |
Hi Bill
Yes, that's the one alright ! :-) Mac
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Thomas McDonald
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Posted: Sat 16 Jul, 2005 6:02 am Post subject: |
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Ben Sweet wrote: | Hey Mac congrats on one heck of a basket I got to check this basket out in M.B, jawdropping is what it is...You could put this basket in a glass top case on a cushion of silk it it would look just as amazing as it does with a blade.. |
Hi Ben
Sorry, I meant to respond to your original question about the blade information !
The blade Eljay used was a Del Tin broadsword (not sure which model?) that he reground/worked into a big backsword.
He did not sharpen this one to a fine edge, but it would be a simple task to follow his bevel and make it so !
I have not flexed or checked its temper yet ,?, but as I really do not intend on cutting with it there wont be any real issue !
The fuller measures 24 1/8" in length, and is 3/4" wide tapering steadily.
It has an 8" false edge that is blended smoothly.
Blade length - 33 7/8", Width - 1 5/8", Thickness - a hair over 1/8 thick on the spine.
POB - 4 3/8" out from hilt
The blade weighed in at 1 lb. 7 1/2 oz., unmounted, and has a threaded tang/nut assembly.
Thanks, Ben, Mac
Edit : Looking over the DT models for something similar, perhaps Eljay reworked the blade of a DT 2132 Medieval sword ?
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Jay Barron
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Posted: Sat 16 Jul, 2005 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Thomas McDonald wrote: | ...I don't care much for those red felt things they add to modern baskets...
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I feel that way, too. Red velvet liners normally don't do it for me but the liner in the original sword really sets off the basket. The fabric really reminds me of what I've seen on old carriage and sleigh seats.
Constant and true.
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Jeremy Scott Steimel
Location: Champaign, IL Joined: 24 Jan 2004
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Posted: Sat 16 Jul, 2005 10:36 am Post subject: Incredible. |
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Mac, Mac, mac...
Absolutely gorgeous. So intricate yet humble at the same time. This has got to be my favorite basket hilt I've seen in a long, long time.
Take care.
-JS
Dum spiro, spero
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Thomas McDonald
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Posted: Sat 16 Jul, 2005 11:47 am Post subject: Re: Incredible. |
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Jeremy Scott Steimel wrote: | Mac, Mac, mac...
Absolutely gorgeous. So intricate yet humble at the same time. This has got to be my favorite basket hilt I've seen in a long, long time. Take care. -JS |
Thanks, Jeremy .... I salute your good taste ;-) Mac
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Thomas McDonald
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Posted: Sat 16 Jul, 2005 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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A little information concerning the original .....
LA 22 - John Allan,of Sirling,1716.
John Wallace,"Scottish Swords & Dirks",1970.
-- Plate 33 & 34 .
A fine basket-hilt, the metal chased with floral and leaf forms, and inlaid with disks, interlace, daggers, etc., in silver.
On the loops set into the underside of the guard are two silver plates on which is inscribed John Allan and Stirling 1716.
Because the backguard is also incised with the initials I.A.S, Whitelaw was able to formulate his research later set down in his celebrated article on signed swords by Glasgow and Stirling armourers. John Allan senior was admitted burgess of Stirling in 1714.
The liner is not original. OL- 38", BL- 31 1/4". Silver inlaid & engraved.
-- Belonged to the chief of Clanranald. Bequeathed by Angus Roderick MacDonald, 23rd chief & captain of Clanranald.
Charles E. Whitelaw, "Scottish Arms Makers", Plate III.Fig. 3.
-- Backsword with pierced basket hilt chased with floral and leaf forms and inlaid with discs, interlacing lines etc. of silver, while on the corners of the square junction plate are added four crosses or daggers, also inlaid in silver.
The underside of the quillon is signed I.A. over S and on the pas d' ane or loops(Foward guards) on the underside of the basket are inset two silver plates inscribed respectively JOHN ALLAN, STIRLING 1716. At three points the framework of the basket has been broken and spliced on the inside with a small riveted plate; this shows that the sword has been used in action. The blade is single edged with two flutes close to the point, and signed ANDRIA FERARA. The scabbard appears to be considerably later date than the sword.
Total length, 3 feet 1 1/4" inches, Blade, 31 3/8" inches by 1" inch.
* MACDONALD OF CLANRANALD * Prince Charles Edward left this sword with "Old Clanranald of the '45", when, disguised as a woman, he escaped the Outer Hebrides with Flora MacDonald. The present Clanranald has deposited it in the Scottish National Museum of Antiquities, Edinburgh.(further referenced in 'Scottish Weapons & Fortifications 1100-1800' by David H. Caldwell,Page 155,Fig. 65)
Cyril Mazansky, "British Basket-Hilted Swords", 2005.
F16e(IA) -- National Museums of Scotland, Edinburgh MCR1 (1716)
-- This hilt illustrates another example of this typological group, in this case signed by John Allan 1 and inscribed Stirling 1716.
The decorative pattern on the shield consists of pierced family A, type ii, hearts and a central circular hole, with four inlaid silver daggers in saltire. Of note also is the paired claw with bifurcated end found at the junction of the main guards just as they enter the groove beneath the type IVA pommel, as on the last type, 16e(JA) and on F16c(JA).
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Lee O'Hagan
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Posted: Sat 16 Jul, 2005 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Congrats mac,
even before looking at all the silver work that is a pretty cool basket,alot of detail going on,
are you sure your not gonna cut with it,
Big thumbs up to Eljay,awsome looking work,
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Hisham Gaballa
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Posted: Sat 16 Jul, 2005 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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That is a stunning pice of work. Absolutely amazing. Excuse me while I go and look for my jaw,I dropped it somewhere under the desk when I saw those pictures.
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Thomas McDonald
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Posted: Sun 17 Jul, 2005 11:29 am Post subject: |
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Lee O'Hagan wrote: | Congrats mac,
even before looking at all the silver work that is a pretty cool basket,alot of detail going on,
are you sure your not gonna cut with it,
Big thumbs up to Eljay,awsome looking work, |
Thanks, Lee
I'm sure I'll have to at least try her out once .....okay, maybe twice ;-) , after I sharpen 'er up !
But for the most part she will sit and look majestic , Mac
* Can't ya just hear that Woosh-ing sound now !
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Thomas McDonald
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Posted: Sun 17 Jul, 2005 11:52 am Post subject: |
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Hisham Gaballa wrote: | That is a stunning pice of work. Absolutely amazing. Excuse me while I go and look for my jaw,I dropped it somewhere under the desk when I saw those pictures. |
Hi Hisham
Yes, these makers need to put warnings on the box .... "Please Hold Jaw When Viewing Contents"
;-) Mac
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M. Taylor
Location: Chesterland, Ohio Joined: 01 Mar 2004
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Posted: Sun 17 Jul, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject: |
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Oh my, Mac. That is just stunning. e5drf6t7gyhu9ino-mp, 89bh0nju9-m0=,.p=79yb8un9
Oops, sorry. That was me wiping the drool off of my keyboard. I think I need a cigarette.
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David Martin
Location: Southeastern Pennsylvania Joined: 11 Apr 2005
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Posted: Mon 18 Jul, 2005 5:51 am Post subject: |
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Thank you for posting these pictures. Your sword is absolutely beautiful. I hope to someday own an Eljay baskethilt. Until then, I'll have to experience the thrill vicariously.
Congratulations on money well spent!
David
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Russ Ellis
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Posted: Mon 18 Jul, 2005 5:59 am Post subject: |
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Just adding the general chorus of ooohs and ahhhs! Oooooh Ahhhhhh! It's an outstanding piece you have there Mac, but of course you don't need me to tell you that. Also, if I might add your picture taking skills have REALLY improved over the years!
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Sean Flynt
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Posted: Mon 18 Jul, 2005 6:43 am Post subject: |
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I'm expecting to get my hands on yet another new Eljay creation in the next couple of weeks, and I was just starting to get my excitement under control when I saw your piece, Mac. Now I've had to raise my Eljay Alert level back up to Orange ("Giddy")
This new basket is fantastic. As for the liner, I'd hate to see Eljay's grip work hidden by a full-basket velvet liner. Maybe a compromise in the form of a half-basket liner of plain deerskin? A silver-embroidered half or 3/4 cloth liner could be a knockout....
-Sean
Author of the Little Hammer novel
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Russ Thomas
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Posted: Mon 18 Jul, 2005 7:34 am Post subject: |
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I can only repeat what has already been said , Wow ! That is absolutely stunning !! It is a great pleasure to look at and I can only guestimate how wonderful that must be to own............mind you, if I owned it I would probably have ruined it my now ..............with all the dribbling all over it !
It is gratifying to know that there are still craftsmen out there that are still capable of such beautiful workmanship. A truly stunning piece !
Regards as ever,
Russ
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Roger Hooper
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Posted: Mon 18 Jul, 2005 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Sean Flynt wrote: | I'm expecting to get my hands on yet another new Eljay creation in the next couple of weeks, and I was just starting to get my excitement under control when I saw your piece, Mac. Now I've had to raise my Eljay Alert level back up to Orange ("Giddy")
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There's an Eljay sword coming to me as well, hopefully this week. Do you remember those 3 Eljay hilts that Gus Trim received last Spring? I claimed the English baskethilt, and Gus made a 32 inch long backsword for it. Soon Soon Soon
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