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PostPosted: Sat 19 Mar, 2005 8:49 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

It's cool Alex; I think I see exactly what you're saying. But my theory is this: What Peter Johnsson is offering in the Museum/Hallmark series is the precise recreation of one particular sword down to its last detail, unlike a NextGen sword whose design is that of different ones. On Peter's swords, the emphasis is purely history. Did Svante's sword have blackened furniture with a red grip? Maybe it did, maybe it didn't.

As Alina said, Peter spent a lot of time with the original so he would know best if the grip was brown, black -- or red, or pink, or green, or purple with little yellow polka dots Razz (whoa, time-out!). My point is that if you order a Svante, or a Tritonia (my fave!) or whichever one with blackened furniture, different colored grip, or anything that makes it look different than on the webpage (or in Peter's documentation of the original), than it wouldn't be historically accurate -- and thus not meeting Peter's standards.

Idea Anyway, I too have just finished exams. Brain is fried. Just my thoughts. -Ted

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Mar, 2005 10:03 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

I give up. Cry
everyone seems to be taking it all wrong. Confused
I understand the concept of the museum line. Cool
I just want to know if they offer their service at all-anymore WTF?!
I just had a question on a service they used to offer, and wondered if it was still offered. Question
And I still think the Svante would be neat black and oxblood. Razz
my head hurts & I don't want to keep diverting this thread so lets just move on, and I'll call Mike up to figure it all out (and order me some goodies...) Laughing Out Loud

Sorry if I seem curt, its been a looong week. Sad

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Mar, 2005 10:43 am    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Alex Oster wrote:
I give up. Cry
everyone seems to be taking it all wrong. Confused
I understand the concept of the museum line. Cool
I just want to know if they offer their service at all-anymore WTF?!
I just had a question on a service they used to offer, and wondered if it was still offered. Question
And I still think the Svante would be neat black and oxblood. Razz
my head hurts & I don't want to keep diverting this thread so lets just move on, and I'll call Mike up to figure it all out (and order me some goodies...) Laughing Out Loud

Sorry if I seem curt, its been a looong week. Sad


Finals week...
Four finals + Severe Laryngitis = not fun Cry But at least it is over.

I understand what you're saying. To my knowledge, Albion still offers the hilt blueing treatment on the swords if you want it. They also offer grip color choices not displayed on site for an additional cost. I'm not sure if they allow this on the museum line or not but I know I've seen quite a few Ritters with blackened hilt parts. That's the way I want mine. There's just something oddly Teutonic about it...
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PostPosted: Sat 19 Mar, 2005 12:48 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Move on people.
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PostPosted: Sat 19 Mar, 2005 1:01 pm    Post subject:         Reply with quote

Patrick Kelly wrote:
Move on people.

I was trying... Blush

I have done some peeking around, but I haven't been able to find what the inscription was suposed to be...? as in what does it represent? I am getting that it was on one version but not another? What wa the story about that Arrow Question

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Just to go off topic for a bit, the sword I would most love to see in the Museum line would have to be XIIIa.2 from Records of the Medieval Sword. That weapon is awesome.
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Taylor Ellis wrote:
Just to go off topic for a bit, the sword I would most love to see in the Museum line would have to be XIIIa.2 from Records of the Medieval Sword. That weapon is awesome.


Would you believe if I said I had a custom order for a replica of that sword on order? After a while, before he had begun working on the sword, we decided to blow it off. But even without ever having seen it, it's still my favorite TypeXIIIa.
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Taylor Ellis wrote:
Just to go off topic for a bit, the sword I would most love to see in the Museum line would have to be XIIIa.2 from Records of the Medieval Sword. That weapon is awesome.

Surprised Oh yeah, that one's one of my favorites too. Kinda reminds me of the Baron. Another one I've always liked in Records is Type Xa 1. -Ted

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I know this has been asked before, but any new updates an the MuseumLine St. Maurice-Turin?? It's on my list of possible graduation presents. Wink

Ted

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Edward Hitchens wrote:
I know this has been asked before, but any new updates an the MuseumLine St. Maurice-Turin?? It's on my list of possible graduation presents. Wink

Ted


Steve is working on some tweaks that Peter asked for in the blade blank and those should be done soon. Then, the revised blank has to be shipped to Sweden for final fitting of the waxes, then the waxes sent here for molding and casting. Still a couple of months away, I am afraid...

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I should have it paid off by then. Happy Hopefully it can be done by the end of the year, but I'd rather have it done right, than have it done now. Really looking forward to this one, Howy.

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Brian M wrote:
I should have it paid off by then. Happy Hopefully it can be done by the end of the year, but I'd rather have it done right, than have it done now. Really looking forward to this one, Howy.

Brian M


Me, too, Brian! This one has always been on my dream sword list...

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Howard Waddell wrote:
Edward Hitchens wrote:
I know this has been asked before, but any new updates an the MuseumLine St. Maurice-Turin?? It's on my list of possible graduation presents. Wink

Ted


Steve is working on some tweaks that Peter asked for in the blade blank and those should be done soon. Then, the revised blank has to be shipped to Sweden for final fitting of the waxes, then the waxes sent here for molding and casting. Still a couple of months away, I am afraid...

Best,

Howy


No problem at all Howard. Can't wait to see the finished sword, but I'm willing to wait. Do you think it'll be around December-ish? -Ted

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Edward Hitchens wrote:
No problem at all Howard. Can't wait to see the finished sword, but I'm willing to wait. Do you think it'll be around December-ish? -Ted


Yep, I am hoping for November/December to have finished swords going out the door (if all goes well.) Thanks for your patience!

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This may have been brought up already, but what's the significance of the "H+H" inscription on the blade?
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I don't believe it is known. On one side the inscription is H + H, and on the other side the inscription is + H +
Almost certainly it involves a Holy Trinity reference. There are three symbols on each face. There are three "H"s altogether. There are three crosses "+" altogether. Who knows just what the "H" stands for -- perhaps the maker's mark? Perhaps the initial of the original owner? The first letter of a well-known religious verse?

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Edward Hitchens wrote:
This may have been brought up already, but what's the significance of the "H+H" inscription on the blade?


Hi Edward...

Not sure if anyone knows what the "H"s and "+"s signify. I agree with Brian that is probably an opaque reference to the trinity.

One crazy possibility (and this is a long shot) is that it is the last remnants of the older Ulfberth motif. The reverse and obverse sides (back and front) show changes that could be interpreted as moving the forms closer to the arrangement seen on the St. Maurice Turin Sword. Like I said it is a crazy idea. Eek! Not one I would want to defend, but interesting to think about.

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Howy,

Any updates on the SoSM?

Brian M

P.S. I just ordered a Tritonia for my 7th -- should be here in a couple of weeks. It should be interesting to compare these very large yet very different ML single-handers to each other.
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Brian M wrote:
Howy,

Any updates on the SoSM?

Brian M

P.S. I just ordered a Tritonia for my 7th -- should be here in a couple of weeks. It should be interesting to compare these very large yet very different ML single-handers to each other.


Hey Brian!

Steve is running a reprogrammed blade with Peter's changes this weekend, and I am hoping we can wrap up St Maurice while Peter is here in November.

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The new blade blank is completed and heat-treated and will be on its way to Peter next week for testing and final hilt work. As I said above, we hope to put this into production while Peter is here in late November.

Here is one photo of the unfinished blade blank with engraving:



a couple more photos here:

http://www.albion-swords.com/albion-sword-news.htm

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